Official Superman Poster

[Tonguez]

Here’s a weird question that occurred to me.

The tagline is “Look Up”. In the original Superman movie it was “You’ll believe a man can fly!”

So flight is still portrayed as an amazing thing, despite the fact that we’ve seen a thousand people fly in the intervening years.

But then I thought. Most of them fly because of equipment. They don’t have flight innately. There’s a bunch of magic users who can fly of course.

So my question is this — offhand, which characters can innately fly, without the use of special equipment?

I’m just trying to get a sense.

So just sticking to DC and if we discount Magic (including Telekinesis) and Devices (like the Lantern Ring) its not that many

Superman and the other Kryptonians (and Daxamites)
Martian Manhunter
Starfire

Various Energy beings (Firestorm, Captain Atom, Dr Manhattan)

Spectre *Ghost Powers, which might be considered magic or at least divine
Wonder Woman* This is divine blessing which could be considered magic
New Gods - have similar godlike ability fly

Some versions of Hawkman/Hawkgirl have natural wings, others have magical Nth Metal Wings

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

I didn't watch Peacemaker. What I saw of the character in Suicide Squad was a caricature that I found I had no further interest in.

Peacemaker is one of the biggest surprises of the 21st century superhero movie/TV era. It's an incredibly nuanced and sensitive series about a fundamentally goofy (but also very, very broken) guy.

It's shockingly good, although I think almost everyone sits down to first watch it thinking they'll turn it off after 15 minutes.

 

[Reynard]

Peacemaker is one of the biggest surprises of the 21st century superhero movie/TV era. It's an incredibly nuanced and sensitive series about a fundamentally goofy (but also very, very broken) guy.

It's shockingly good, although I think almost everyone sits down to first watch it thinking they'll turn it off after 15 minutes.

All of this.

 

[Ruin Explorer]

I think almost everyone sits down to first watch it thinking they'll turn it off after 15 minutes.

That's what I assumed yeah!

 

[Umbran]

So just sticking to DC and if we discount Magic (including Telekinesis)

If we "discount magic" then the entire Shazam/Marvel family is out, which seems unfair.

And in the comics, there's a whole lot of telekinesis that isn't "magic" per se. Jean Grey is a powerful telekinetic, but Doctor Strange never accuses her of using magic.

 

[Kaodi]

In many ways the trailer looks pretty goofy. But, and this is a big but, maybe that betrays a vision that actually loves the comics for more than the most commonly known stuff. And, like, putting Krypto the Wonder Dog front and centre of the teaser is either the brainchild of someone who has decamped from reality or really does know that he has got the goods to deliver.

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

In many ways the trailer looks pretty goofy. But, and this is a big but, maybe that betrays a vision that actually loves the comics for more than the most commonly known stuff. And, like, putting Krypto the Wonder Dog front and centre of the teaser is either the brainchild of someone who has decamped from reality or really does know that he has got the goods to deliver.

Krypto being a Very Good Boy rather than, say, a snarling alien beast (as he presumably would be under Snyder) I think is definitely a declaration of what kind of vibe we're going for her.

 

[Morrus]

Krypto being a Very Good Boy rather than, say, a snarling alien beast (as he presumably would be under Snyder) I think is definitely a declaration of what kind of vibe we're going for her.

Apparently he is very much not a good boy. Gunn says he’s based on his own dog, and is a terrible dog!

 

[Reynard]

Apparently he is very much not a good boy. Gunn says he’s based on his own dog, and is a terrible dog!

I heard he lifts his leg on the Batcave, which explains the animosity...

 

[Tonguez]

If we "discount magic" then the entire Shazam/Marvel family is out, which seems unfair.

And in the comics, there's a whole lot of telekinesis that isn't "magic" per se. Jean Grey is a powerful telekinetic, but Doctor Strange never accuses her of using magic.

sure but if you include magic then pretty much half of the DC Heroes can fly, if you cut it then theres suprisingly few innate flyers.
I love Shazam but he is just Magic Superman

Peacemaker is one of the biggest surprises of the 21st century superhero movie/TV era. It's an incredibly nuanced and sensitive series about a fundamentally goofy (but also very, very broken) guy.

It's shockingly good, although I think almost everyone sits down to first watch it thinking they'll turn it off after 15 minutes.

I agree with this, I absolutely hated the Peacemaker character in Suicide Squad but when they explored his character in the TV show it was suprisingly nuanced, acknowledging the effects of his dysfunctional upbringing and deep brokeness.

Gunn seems very much attracted to these broken characters and their nuance, but I'm not confident that will translate to a nuanced exploration of the Heroic Boy Scout (but I'm willing to be proven wrong)