OGL: Faserip?

[Jim Hague]

First off, the project is not out yet so we can only speculate as to what such a project will mean to the superhero gaming community as a whole. As far as HERO doing well, I would suggest you head over to the Hero Games forum and check out some of Steve and Darren's posts about sales. I would also suggest you check out their decreased upcoming product schedule. Hero Games is only two steps ahead of the flood and has been for a couple of years. So perhaps you should double check your own facts.

And I have. I don't make statements without being able to back them up.

Are you saying Phil is doing this not to make money? Phil stands to make $930.00 for what he has called "two weeks work" on RPG.net. How many of Phil's PDF ventures do you believe have netted him $930.00 for only 2 weeks work? I would bet not too many.

And you'd bet wrong. But if you don't believe me, ask him directly. That Phil is going to be making money is hardly a question - but if you read the thread in question, instead of coming here to impugn motives and throw around cheap insults, you'd actually realize that he's doing it because he wants to. It's a project that's grabbed his imagination. The money is, I'd think, bonus and recompense for the work he'll put in.

Your loyalty is admirable but your ties to Phil make your comments somewhat circumspect based on the fact that your Superlink company is only in existence because it is marketed through Phil's. If you had no business affiliation with Phil you might see things differently.

Ah, so when you can't back up your claims about Ronin Arts with facts (of which you have none), you resort to yet another sly little insult - this time implying that I only defend Phil because of a business relationship. PZP was started long before I had any affiliation with Phil, Krolik. And much like your claims where to pretend to know what Ronin Arts' business is, you're simply blowing smoke when you make statements about my own. You know precisely zip - about me, my business, or its relationship with Ronin Arts. So, if you please, kindly shut your trap about it.

As for the project itself - I think it's worthy enough that I slapped down my $10 sight unseen, because, unlike yourself, I know Phil, and Ronin Arts, can back up their claims.

 

[Krolik]

And I have. I don't make statements without being able to back them up.

If you had been double checking your facts you would have realized I did not say M&M's sales were down. I said that losing 1,000 customers would be detrimental. And your information about HERO was false as well, so I don't see much fact checking going on.

And you'd bet wrong. But if you don't believe me, ask him directly. That Phil is going to be making money is hardly a question - but if you read the thread in question, instead of coming here to impugn motives and throw around cheap insults, you'd actually realize that he's doing it because he wants to. It's a project that's grabbed his imagination. The money is, I'd think, bonus and recompense for the work he'll put in.

I believes he likes the idea of the project but I do not believe he has thought through all of the ramifications other then the financial ones to him. WotC could, for instance, get pissed off and pull the rights they have given to ClassicMarvel.com to host the Marvel PDFs. There is a lot more going on then just Phil wanting to do something.

And much like your claims where to pretend to know what Ronin Arts' business is, you're simply blowing smoke when you make statements about my own.

See, this is where you emotions have gotten the better of you. I never said I know anything about Phil's business but I did follow his line and I do read many of his comments posted here, rpg.net, the M&M forum, and other places; especially those comments he has made about sale. I understand the business realities of PDF publishing as well. A $930.00 net is a good deal for him.

In any event Phil is going to so whatever he wants. I just hope it does not blow up in his, and everyone else's, face.

 

[Plane Sailing]

Your loyalty is admirable but your ties to Phil make your comments somewhat circumspect based on the fact that your Superlink company is only in existence because it is marketed through Phil's. If you had no business affiliation with Phil you might see things differently.

Krolik,

These and other comments seem pretty rude to me about fellow ENworld members (whether or not you mean to cast them in a bad light).

As a result, I'm going to have to ask you not to post in this thread again. If you have any questions about this, please feel free to email me.

 

[Bretbo]

True, but that idea is pretty risky. I mean, there's a good chance it would take months of effort to recover the investment in time.

What's exciting to me about this idea is it both measures interest in the project and gives me a chance to determine -- ahead of time -- whether or not the dea is worth working on.

Well, I can't quantify anything; but I'd suspect a RPG (well, support material for a free RPG) using one of the most beloved RPG systems around published by one of the most respected RPG publishers (PDF or print) would sell like mad. Totally can't back that up, but I've got that feel'n!

Oh, and the Fundraising still has 23 days to go and you already have 76 - 99% funds pledged. Yeah...I think this is going to happen!

 

[philreed]

How many of Phil's PDF ventures do you believe have netted him $930.00 for only 2 weeks work? I would bet not too many.

I don't want to get into the specifics of how I work, or how much I make, but I can assure you that I have many PDFs that have earned well over $1,000 for less than one week of work. I also have PDFs that have made less than $100. I can actually fairly well estimate, before starting a project, how much it will earn. I try to balance highly-profitable projects with "I'd like to write this" projects.

The Campaign Planner serieshttp://www.roninarts.com/store/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=campaign+planner&x=43&y=17, exists as it is today because it is profitable enough to pay for the creation of less profitable projects. The first Campaign Plannerhttp://www.roninarts.com/store/product_info.php?products_id=170 alone has sold over 1,000 copies across multiple sites.

I'm not sure what I have done to offend you.

 

[Darkforceprime]

As a longtime FASERIP fan I was glad to see this all come about. I did feel the ransom was high, but if I step back and look at it from a business perspective, it does make sense. It's what we pay to buy someone's work. And when it is done, Phil is giving it to us to own.

Fears about Marvel or WoTC coming at us on the legal end are there. Everytime I publish a game I wonder who might decide to challenge me, even though I do follow MLA guidelines and I have a bachelor's in English, a minor in writing and finishing my Master's. I doubt Phil would have taken this one on if he felt the legals would come calling.

~DF

 

[kroh]

I would love to see this come back and already threw a donation in the pot. Is there going to be some sort of a network to be set up to detail the progress of this?

What kind of updates will be made or will this be a straight FASERIP like on the marvelrpg site?

Will we get those cool blue and red dice that came in the box...will there even be a box?

Regards,
Walt

 

[Ilium]

I would love to see this come back and already threw a donation in the pot. Is there going to be some sort of a network to be set up to detail the progress of this?

What kind of updates will be made or will this be a straight FASERIP like on the marvelrpg site?

Will we get those cool blue and red dice that came in the box...will there even be a box?

Regards,
Walt

I don't intend to speak for Phil, but it sounds like a straight re-write (i.e. no significant rule changes) and will be free PDF only. Sorry, no dice.

 

[philreed]

Producing a boxed set -- later -- would certainly be an option. But there is no way that a boxed set could be free or sold for cost.

The focus at first would be on creating the free system and toolkit.

 

[kroh]

Producing a boxed set -- later -- would certainly be an option. But there is no way that a boxed set could be free or sold for cost.

The focus at first would be on creating the free system and toolkit.

[joke]how about paper folds of the dice...it could happen[/joke]

Looking forward to it...
Regards,
Walt