One more hint about gnolls on PHB3?

[Dice4Hire]

"Official", yes.

"Optional", also yes.

"Banned" also in living campaigns.

 

[avin]

I'd rather have hobgoblins before githyanki, with them being so prevalent and sociable in Eberron.

Not to mention that, IMO, Githyankis are far cooler than Hobgoblins, I would rather see Wotc put an effort in creating a new generic race... Wilden is an interesting try, but the can do better.

 

[Mercurius]

I've always liked the idea that there is no such thing as an "evil race" - or at least it is very rare. In my campaign world, orcs, for example, come in four major sub-races, only two of which could be considered "evil".

 

[Charwoman Gene]

Unless they're going to pull something like Wow's Darkspear Trolls (a non savage tribe)... but that would also work for Githyankis, who are cooler, IMO.

Hmm... a non-evil group of Githyanki...

So like a group of Githyanki who reject the evil ways of the Githyanki and the Lich Queen.

That;s an awesome idea! WotC should put them in PH3! I'll quit D&D forever if they don't.

Maybe they could be good monks and live in the Elemental Chaos instead of the Astral Sea.

 

[avin]

Maybe they could be good monks and live in the Elemental Chaos instead of the Astral Sea.

Oh, and then, millenia after the racial split, a member of the Githyanki race decide to flee from the Lich Queen's embrace and *PUFFF* instantly became a Githzerai.

Don't be silly, please.

A horse is a horse, a zebra is a zebra.

 

[Klaus]

Oh, and then, millenia after the racial split, a member of the Githyanki race decide to flee from the Lich Queen's embrace and *PUFFF* instantly became a Githzerai.

Don't be silly, please.

A horse is a horse, a zebra is a zebra.

Racial shmacial, The zerai and the yanki can be modeled by a single race with a cultural split. The "two race" thing is a holy burger waiting to happen!

But really, if a player asked me to play a githyanki, I'd just point him to the zerai and be done with it.

 

[Barastrondo]

I'm still curious: What makes the githyanki cool as a PC race? Sell me on 'em!

So, I'm starting a game at 1st level. Someone wants to play a githyanki. Clearly they will have no silver sword, there will be no pact with red dragons that the player can take advantage of, and the Astral is not likely to show up for another ten levels.

Why a githyanki? What makes 'em cool? What is this player wanting to do with a githyanki in particular? Is it their dashing good looks? Is it mechanical advantages like the Int/Con stat bumps and the telekinetic leap?

I'm not really into the guys (mostly I like races that have or can be presented as having several different cultures, and the githyanki seem kind of monoculture to me; same reason I don't really use drow). But I'm willing to be shown how awesome they are. Show me the greatness!

 

[Kobold Avenger]

I don't see any appeal on the Githyanki over Hobgoblins. Hobgoblins have clearly been sold to me as a far better choice of PC material. Especially Eberron, where I want to play a Hobgoblin Paladin of Dol Dorn who's part of a diplomatic mission from Darguun.

As for Githzerai, they've been sold as a race back in Planescape, and Dak'kon has also done a lot to sell the Githzerai as PC material.

 

[catsclaw227]

Add me in with the Hobgoblin lovers.

 

[garyh]

I'm still curious: What makes the githyanki cool as a PC race? Sell me on 'em!

So, I'm starting a game at 1st level. Someone wants to play a githyanki. Clearly they will have no silver sword, there will be no pact with red dragons that the player can take advantage of, and the Astral is not likely to show up for another ten levels.

Why a githyanki? What makes 'em cool? What is this player wanting to do with a githyanki in particular? Is it their dashing good looks? Is it mechanical advantages like the Int/Con stat bumps and the telekinetic leap?

I'm not really into the guys (mostly I like races that have or can be presented as having several different cultures, and the githyanki seem kind of monoculture to me; same reason I don't really use drow). But I'm willing to be shown how awesome they are. Show me the greatness!

Githyanki are the only even partially written up Con/Int race. Given that there are several classes that have builds requiring that combination, I think it's natural to want them to be elevated to full PC race status.

Me, I just want a fully written up Con/Int race. It can be githyanki or something else. Every other combo has at least one fully written-up PC race (Con/Dex has two DDI races, every other combo has at least one combo in PHB1/PHB2/FRPG/EPG).