OOC Discussion for Kingdom of Ashes (Leaving Queens, Breaking Swords, & Snake Chicks)

[The_Universe]

If we want answers then alive it must be. Dead they have the choice not to talk and you can't really intimidate a dead thing.... so if someone wants them alive yell it on out for us to try Some of us ain't the big thinkers

Ah - right....I knew that....*shifty eye*

 

[Queen_Dopplepopolis]

Ah - right....I knew that....*shifty eye*

You can expect a shout from Justice or Archon, I'd say.

 

[The_Universe]

In real life, are we going to try to play tomorrow night? I thought it was free, but someone said that there was something else going on at the time...

Liz and I are out starting thursday until next week - we have a wedding in SD. After that, I am led to believe that Gertie's schedule will be pretty tough, and as a result, we might have a hard time playing for a couple of weeks.

Just let me know what's up, ladies and gents. It'd be nice to play, but we'll probably live if we do not.

 

[Laurel]

You can expect a shout from Justice or Archon, I'd say.

Just remember to yell aloud if you want everyone to hear it! I don't think Archy's wearing his anyways....?

 

[Xath]

Starting Wednesday, I have no life until October 16.

The only two days in that time period that I will have any free time are October 9, and October 11. And I could lose those at any moment.

 

[Laurel]

Starting Wednesday, I have no life until October 16.

The only two days in that time period that I will have any free time are October 9, and October 11. And I could lose those at any moment.

I'd say for the sake of your sanity, if you do happen to get two part days free you should go sleep for them!

And this means The Mighty Universe is given time to continue the exciting, great, spell binding, page scrolling, compelling story hour that he writes

Which means:
We wanna UPDATE! We wanna UPDATE! We wanna UPDATE!

 

[The_Universe]

I'd say for the sake of your sanity, if you do happen to get two part days free you should go sleep for them!

And this means The Mighty Universe is given time to continue the exciting, great, spell binding, page scrolling, compelling story hour that he writes

Which means:
We wanna UPDATE! We wanna UPDATE! We wanna UPDATE!

Yeah yeah - I'm working on it. Maybe you'll get another update this week. We'll see what happens, though...

 

[Laurel]

Liz has a cool thread going 'bout PC pregnancy: http://www.enworld.org/forums/showthread.php?t=101957 if ya wanna check it out.

In order to get a good idea of other's worlds and thoughts Kennon asked me to post some questions I had there to here, so we can get the KOA specific answers without hijacking or forcing it to specific thoughts/ideas. So here's what I had::

Teleport- does the kid just act as more weight the mother is carrying or as another person in the equation?

Wish it to be born? (hehehehehe... oh, the ways for that one to get messed up!)

Could the spell regenerate be used? More along the lines of complete, they would seem as part of a whole that needed to be finished.....

Could you use the spell shrink to ah, shrink the baby during battle?

Would the child get to make saves of thier own?
How does target spells like baleful polymorph work?
What about flesh to stone? baby remains unstoned dies without mother turning back quick enough?
Could someone target the baby? What would it's saves be?

Mothers are said to 'feel' thier children while in the womb. They know when something is wrong- is there a big bonus for any skill check the mother does on the kid?

There are some ah- spells that are like contraceptives in the BOED I believe.... do those exsist? Are there no known plants that woman could be on or take if she knows she's going to the deed later?

 

[The_Universe]

Teleport- does the kid just act as more weight the mother is carrying or as another person in the equation?

For ease of interpretation, magic in KoA will operate under the same assumptions as Roe v. Wade. Until the beginning of the 3rd trimester, the child is considered a part of the mother, and as such is merely added weight. As soon as the child is theoretically viable outside the womb, it is considered a seperate entity for the purpose of *most* spells. I reserve the right to adjust that based on specific magics.

Wish it to be born? (hehehehehe... oh, the ways for that one to get messed up!)

This might work if you phrased it correctly. But, as you said, there are a lot of ways for this to be messed up. Since there aren't any PCs or easily accessible NPCs with access to wish besides the Bluestar, I don't think this will be an issue, anyway....

Could the spell regenerate be used? More along the lines of complete, they would seem as part of a whole that needed to be finished.....

Regenerate would return the mother to her most recent "healthy" state. As such, the child would be lost, re-absorbed into the mother. Since the baby has not been fully "generated" it cannot be "re-generated."

Could you use the spell shrink to ah, shrink the baby during battle?

Yes, but the ultimate health effects are as of yet unknown. Drastically altering the size of a developing fetus does not, as a general rule, seem like a real good idea, particularly for the child's long term health.

Would the child get to make saves of thier own?

After the beginning of the 3rd trimester, yes.

How does target spells like baleful polymorph work?

Any shape change on the mother has a significant chance of aborting the fetus. The more extreme the change, the more likely the child will be lost.

What about flesh to stone? baby remains unstoned dies without mother turning back quick enough?

Until the beginning of the third trimester, the baby would be turned to stone, as well. After that point, it's likely that the shock of having a warm, fleshy womb suddenly turn to stone would kill it anyway.

Could someone target the baby? What would it's saves be?

Until the baby is a "seperate person" (3rd trimester, again) it cannot be targeted individually by spells. For ease, I'd use the saves of a 1st level commoner.

Mothers are said to 'feel' thier children while in the womb. They know when something is wrong- is there a big bonus for any skill check the mother does on the kid?

+4 circumstance bonus on heal checks to determine the status of the child in utero.

There are some ah- spells that are like contraceptives in the BOED I believe.... do those exsist? Are there no known plants that woman could be on or take if she knows she's going to the deed later?

There are no known contraceptive spells in KoA. Sorcerer's and Bard's do not manifest them, and the Light does not grant them to clerics or druids (which might give you a hint as to how the Light feels about such things). Wizards might be able to create such a spell, but because Wizardry has been outlawed for so long, and there is no similar sorcerer spell for them to imitate, there's nothing out there, yet. If you can think of a way to make a normal spell work toward the same purpose, I'm willing to entertain the idea.

However, there are more mundane contraceptives. Freckles, in his attempt to invent the woopie cushion has also invented the condom.

Additionally, while there are no herbal/alchemical contraceptives, there are concoctions that can be taken shortly after intercourse (within the first 6 weeks, say) that prevent the pregnancy from taking hold, or, if it is too late for that, terminate the pregnancy. After 6 weeks, such a concoction may work, but is just as likely to simply damage the child or fail completely.

That's what I am thinking thus far.

 

[Laurel]

However, there are more mundane contraceptives. Freckles, in his attempt to invent the woopie cushion has also invented the condom.

Good ol' Freckles usin' his brain!