OOC Discussion for Kingdom of Ashes (Leaving Queens, Breaking Swords, & Snake Chicks)

[Queen_Dopplepopolis]

No one answered my question about who is telling Jaine from several days ago?

Do I just assume that means it's Justice since she volunteered?

 

[Xath]

Archonus Bluestar said he was going to tell her.

 

[The_Universe]

If anything causes a problem (with Justice, at least) I think it is this reasoning from Archonus.

The Circle comes first and the circle operates democratically-- Archonus knows that and, being a man of honor, needs to come out and admit that he is in the minority... so, he needs to go along with the wishes of the group.

I realize that he and Xath have a bond different than the Oath. But, if he comes out and says something like this with Justice around-- she will blow up because it implies that you do not trust the group-- and, you have sworn your life ETERNALLY to the group and, as such, if you don't trust it, I would say that you have broken that Oath.

To everyone:

Rules wise, the long and short of it is this: there's nothing wrong, in the oath, with disagreeing with the majority. You're opinion cannot alter the effect the oath has on you, and holding a contrary one is not enough to break the Eternal, Mortally Severe Oath of Alliance.

The only thing that would break the oath of alliance would be to act in a manner specifically contrary to the decision of the circle. Such a thing could hardly be the act of an ally, and is in fact the act of a totally independent actor. In such a case, the oath would be broken, and whomever would start suffering the penalties.

Therefore, the way to avoid such a circumstance is to - in character - convince a majority of the members of the circle that you've made the right choice, or that your opinion is correct.

You guys get some pretty sweet benefits for having the oath, and I don't think it's unreasonable to assume that the oath would prevent those who swore it from taking their ball and going home any time they disagree.

 

[The_Universe]

Archonus Bluestar said he was going to tell her.

He volunteered, but you don't have to let him be the one. If it were me, I wouldn't let talk to the queen alone, at first. He has the benefit (trust wise) of appearing to be a mostly-unmodified Archonus, but a little caution can't hurt.

He still wants to tell her, but I assume you guys will want to be in the room?

(this should answer Liz's question, as well)

 

[Laurel]

No one answered my question about who is telling Jaine from several days ago?

Do I just assume that means it's Justice since she volunteered?

Unless someone specifically says 'I am not going' plan on everyone going at this point.
If we play thursday and start from Xath crossing the line we can discuss it then.

 

[Queen_Dopplepopolis]

Archonus Bluestar said he was going to tell her.

I don't think he should-- in fact, Justice won't let him without a fight... probably both verbal and physical.

As a friend, I think Jaine needs a little preparation before some guy that looks just like the jerk that just left her marches in to talk to her... that'd be a little MORE shocking that I think she is ready for.

 

[Queen_Dopplepopolis]

Unless someone specifically says 'I am not going' plan on everyone going at this point.
If we play thursday and start from Xath crossing the line we can discuss it then.

Was just trying to get it figured out before Thursday as to save some time-- however, we can certainly drop it until then.

However, I think Archonus Bluestar should be kept away from Jaine until we've talked to her-- explain what's happened-- and then let him into the room.

So, in response to Kennon's post-- unless he does something so convincing I cannot deny the logic behind it, I doubt I'd want him to be the one that tells her.

 

[Laurel]

Was just trying to get it figured out before Thursday as to save some time-- however, we can certainly drop it until then.

However, I think Archonus Bluestar should be kept away from Jaine until we've talked to her-- explain what's happened-- and then let him into the room.

So, in response to Kennon's post-- unless he does something so convincing I cannot deny the logic behind it, I doubt I'd want him to be the one that tells her.

So we go in to wherever Jaine is first, since I agree we need to prep Jaine for double Archonus's. We can go in either all at once or with someone in the hallway waiting with AB or if someone does not want to go but that can be decided game day--
We can even have the door open so he knows we are not lying to Jaine an action of good faith. Then AB and someone (if anyone stayed outside with him but wants to enter) comes in.
AB does need to be there, not as the solo bringer of news, but Jaine and AB deserve to ask us and each other whatever questions they want/need to.

 

[Queen_Dopplepopolis]

So we go in to wherever Jaine is first, since I agree we need to prep Jaine for double Archonus's. We can go in either all at once or with someone in the hallway waiting with AB or if someone does not want to go but that can be decided game day--
We can even have the door open so he knows we are not lying to Jaine an action of good faith. Then AB and someone (if anyone stayed outside with him but wants to enter) comes in.
AB does need to be there, not as the solo bringer of news, but Jaine and AB deserve to ask us and each other whatever questions they want/need to.

Agree!

 

[Laurel]

May all computers be banished to a warm damp forest to slowly rust with parties every other day to simply take a baseball bat to them!!!