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Hum, yeah, that's the thing. It makes perfect sense, given the DCs, but it *is* a free feat for someone with as high a sleight of hand check as I have. I doubt it will matter hugely one way or the other, but it's good to know.

Also, I added a question to my earlier post.
 

Penaut Opinion.

Isida Kep'Tukari said:
Free feat with a good skill check? hmmm.... Peanut gallery, opinions?

That's a problem with Epic High Skills. Theoretically Kelleris could do that without sweat. But let's consider this: With feat, one can do this ALVAYS without trouble. Unless they are unable to reach for the weapon.

And if Kelleris roll 1 on the skill check, he will not suceed. Rare occurence, but ach so often during my games. Cannon fodder villanin, and Player fails his Will save and goes to cinders. Or vice versa, main Bad Guy, and when I planned just tease PC's with him ... Wizbang throws a one in million chance Disintegrate. And two third of the Campaign go off wtrough the window.
"Prophet, You said he was invicible ?" "Huh ?!? You said, he was ?" :p

Kelleris, if You honestly think that such "feat" is unfair ... then don't abuse it. Draw slower, Akumanga shouldn't complain much about waiting for it's pleasure.

Of course in the DIREST circumastences plea Isida for looking trough fingers on Your abuses of rules.

You know, saving person who Arion loves from Overdeity may be right place to ask for permision. With such skyrocketing Bluff You could try to persuade DM that this particular rabbit, looking in Your way, is DEADLIEST of threats that You ever faced. But ... I will warn You, don't abuse You inhumanly high Skills too often and in selfish way. Elefant man will introduce You to his boot, for example. And Arion will be unable to sit on his ... place where back loose it's noble name, for long time. ;) :cool:

Hah, according to official rules Str 60 allows one to lift up a castle. Or at least wizard's tower. Toppling castle walls with a kick ... is a bread and butter. Even for Tsunami, who is two times weaker ... Can destroy castle preety fast.

My advice ? Don't make things that will repulse others, don't make DM cry. It is that simple. :heh: :] :p
 
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Heh. Nah, the Bluff check was just something I was wondering about when Ferrix got me started on how good bard spells are. It was more of an OOC "out of control epic characters" question, rather than something I was actually asking Isida. I mean, nobody's crazy enough to grant class abilities with a Bluff check.

I have no intention of abusing that in any particularly unholy manner. Though my scruples might not survive in a life-or-death situation. :uhoh:

As for the sleight of hand quick draw, I do actually think that's fair. It's rather like fighting defensively being better than combat expertise with 25 ranks in Tumble, or getting a "free" +4 on Bardic Knowledge (a point more than Obscure Lore gives you) from 25 ranks in Knowledge (history). It's a reasonable perk for focusing on skills.
 
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Final Tsunami !

Ok, here goes final incarnation of Tsunami. I hope that You will all share Your opinions about her with me. ;) :cool: :uhoh:

Tsunami, Maug Epic Fighter, Alignment: Lawful Good

Str: 36 +13 (+6 lvl, +5 Inherent)
Dex: 23 +6 (+5 Inherent)
Con: -
Int: 19 +4 (+5 Inherent)
Wis: 17 +3 (+5 Inherent)
Cha: 23 +6 (+5 Inherent, +4 enhancement)

Level: 25 Fighter, 2 Construct XP: 443,001
BAB: +21( -1 Size) HP: 267 (27d10 +57)
Grapple: +34 Speed: 140'
Init: +6 (+6 Dex)
AC: 45(-1 Size, +5 Dex, +12 Natural, +12 Armour, +8 Braces, +4 Shield, +5 Deflection )

Meele Weapon : Scimitar +41 AB, d8 +20 magic dmg.
Ranged Weapon : Longbow +32 AB, 2d6 +13 normal dmg.

Class and Racial Abilities:
Construct traits, Fighter bonus feats, Pulverize, OC 39, +4 Racial bonus for Craft (Stonemasonry) and Knowledge (Architecture and Enginerring), Grafts.

Feats: (6 standard, 10 Fighter Bonus, 3 Epic, 2 Fighter Epic)
Alterness (Racial)
Nymph's Kiss (Exlated)
Weapon Focus: Scimitar (FB)
Combat Expertise (FB)
Iron Will
Weapon Specialisation: Scimitar (FB)
Run
Improved Critical Hit: Scimitar (FB)
Mighty Leaping
Dodge (FB)
Mobility (FB)
Great Fortitude
Spring Attack (FB)
Large and in Charge
Improved Toughness (FB)
Fleet of Foot
Whirlwind Attack (FB)
Epic Fortitude
Improved Whirlwind Attack (FEB)
Epic Weapon Focus :Scimitar (FEB)
Epic Speed
Legendary Leaper

Languages: Common, Elven, Celestial.

Saves:.......Base: Ability: Other: Magic: Final:
Fort...........+14.....+0......+6......+5......+25
Ref............+8.......+6.......-.......+5......+19
Will............+8.......+3......+2......+5......+18

Skill Points: 164/7 Max Ranks: 30/15
Skills:........................Ranks...Mod......Syn...Misc..Total
Climb.........................28......+13(Str)...-......-2....+39
Craft (Stonemasonry)...28......+4 (Int)....-......+4....+36
Handle Animal.............28......+6 (Cha)...-......-......+34
Intimidate..................28......+6 (Cha)...-......-.....+34
Jump.........................28......+13(Str)...-....+92...+133
Diplomacy(CrossClass)..6.......+6 (Cha)...-......-.....+12
Craft(Bowmaking)........12......+4 (Int)....-.......-.....+16

Equipment: (295 gp left)
Internal Shrudder Plate (8000 gp)
Maug graft, giving tremorsense 15'. Tsunami, unlike other Maug have very acute sense of touch. Wich allows her to sense even the smallest movements and fight against foes even blinded.

"Heart Guardian" Cloak of Protection, +5 Resistance bonus to saves, +5 Enhancement bonus to Natural Armour (87,500 gp)
*Cloaks like this are made for Heart Guard Champion, because old Champion's cloak is buried with him. Unfortunately, Tsunami is a last Champion ... so when she will fall in battle there will be nobody to bury her with all glory.*

"Loyalty" Ring of Greater Elemental Resistance, Ironskin and Rapid Healing (1,174,000 gp)
Rapid Healing was customized to repair constructs, no other creature would benefit from this power.
*This badge of honor and utter loyalty for the Golden Empress was bestowed upon Tsunami for defending palace against overhelming odds for 180 days. Then also Tsunami get infamous title of Thousand Men Slayer.*

"Protectors" Braces of Defense +8 (64,000 gp)
*After bathing in the Endless Falls, many common items possesed by Tsunami gained great power. My archer's braces started emanating protective aura.*

"Wavesplitter" Large, Wounding, Keen, Throwing and Returning Scimitar +5 (200,500 gp)
*This blade is ancient, but elusive marid Wavesplitter were just smiling mysteriously when questioned about his gift. It's simple looks hide well the real power slumbering inside. So I named it after him.*

"Devotion" Mithral Shield of Exceptional Arrow Deflection +2 (1,001,000 gp)
*After particular battle in wich rebelling warlock hired giants who nearly killed Golden Empress, throwing great boulders at unexpected range. It is Tsunami who were nearly destroyed while shielding wounded Empress with her own body. Empress gifted her personal Champion with this shield, to prevent such incidents in the future. How wrong she were.*

"Golden General" Glamered Warlord's Breastplate (418,900 gp)
*Book of War states that leader must be seen by his soldiers. All Maug teachings agree on that that without faith in the discipline, army breaks. It's consitency depends on leader. And nothing increases morale more than trustworthy general who also is impressive. That's why I ordered creation of impressive looking breatplate ... And since Her August Higness, may she rule untroubled, ordered me to wear things ... unpractical, charm was placed on the armour to make it look as fashion demands. Again, bath in Endless Falls magnified it's potency tenfold.*

"Indepedence" Ring of Freedom of Movement, Feather Fall and Protection +5 (113,300 gp)
*A token of admiration from Toul'esvirr ... poet full of rhymes and melancholy, only if he would appreciate something avaible to him. No, he must admire impossibility ! But, from other side ... he were seeming happy just to hang around and create poems about my exploits. I don't understand what romantic he sees in the war ? He seen enough of it to know reality ... Guess that all fleshborn are crazy.*

"Earth's Child Mark" Torc of Jumping, +30 Insight bonus to Jump checks (180,000 gp)
*Druids dwelling in the Empire teach us that all and every one of us is a child of earth's soil. For me it were doubly true ... my very flesh were crafted from earth bones. And this torc is a mark of favour given to remind me of that fact.*

Sandals of Swiftness (256,000 gp)
*"You are so slow and clumsy." Her August Higness, may she rule in peace, told me oneday ... And the next day one of her admirers presented me with pair of beautiful sandals. But I don't allowed him to sing in Moon's Garden. And thanked him, as is properly.*

"Three Oaks" Large,Composite Longbow of Distance +5 with max. Strength Bonus +13 (73,800 gp)
*To enter Spring Festival's archery contest I needed a bow. And with the help of fine elven bowmakers this masterpiece was created. And Spring Festival have gained a new event for archers. Straining Tsunami's Bow. Many Champion wannabees resigned after this first test of their might. Those who suceeded without aid were rarer than educated orc. Unless they were Giants, of course.*

"Giant Beltpurse" Bag of Holding, type VI (10,000 gp)
*This beltpurse was spoil of capturing famous Giant bandit, Stonehead.*

"Hard Training" Equivalent of Manual of Gainful Exercise, Manual of Quickness of Action, Tome of Clear Thought, Tome of leadership and influence and Tome of understanding. All +5 (687,500 gp)
*It were a rare honour, to be chosen for personal training with great Thulkarr ... Requiments were high, even for me. And in the end I heard that with such soft heart I should go farming, not to war. Venerable old bastards, I like them even more now, knowing some of them.*

"Leprechaun's Quiver" (4,700 gp)
Mix of Efficient Quiver with Handy Haversac, to give Handy properity to the quiver.
*I never understanded, and probably will never understand fey ... One day She claims to hate me all her heart for stamping on her garden during the fight. Next day she gives me with quiver, to not spill arrows like she said.*

"Stoneshatter" Maul of the Titans (25,305 gp)
*When, shortly after the Giant's War, rumour spread about Giant destroying mountain peaks for sport ... Dwarves petitioned their liege, Golden Empress, to do something ... for they would go to the war instantly and wipe out their hated foes forever. She send me, and her best tracker ... And we killed murderously insane, nameless Titan. I took his hammer to return someday and enscribe name on his gravestone. Now it's impossible ... I have nowhere to return.*

"Endless Falls Blessing" Pearl of the Sirines (30,600 gp)
Irremovable, that is what doubled the cost.
*Oneday, Her August Majesty wished to see sacred falls for herself, wich granted her bloodline with eternal youth. As usual she understimated strength of the stream and nearly drowned ... I didn't knew that I can swim that fast. Everybody say that after the unwanted bath I look more alive, and my hair despite being of marble started moving like those of fleshborn. She spotted that and ordered me to keep my hair right to the fashion ... sigh.*

"Icon" Phylactery of Faithfulness (1000 gp)
*Sometimes all we need to remember who we are is small reminder. This icon of Her August Majesty is such reminder for me.*

Scabbard of Keen Edges(16,000 gp)
*To keep my sword sheated, that was the purpouse of scabbard. After the bath it keep my blade sharp and keen. But I won't fire lieutenant just because of that. It simply decreased amount of his duties.*

"Mark of the Golden Champion" Headband of Telepathy (27,000 gp)
*All who came before Golden Throne, came with their minds open and hearts pure ... that's a duty of Golden Champion.*

Luckstone (Nonmagical)
*I was born as soldier, and will never forgot my begginings. And since this piece of Acheron's land kept me alive trough my many exploits, battles, wars and adventures ... Soldiers need something to have faith in.*

"Gold Oak seeds" 49 Feather Tokens, Trees. (19,600 gp)
*Like old druid once said. Be ready to give something in place of this what You take. Since during the Dragon War in one of vassal kingdoms, all their forests were burned down. Golden Empress sent me with these oak seeds from her gardens ... as a sign of compassion. I hate diplomatic work, when did everybody imagined me to be some paladin or what ?*

Personality:
Typically for a Maug, Tsunami understand everything trough prism of war. But unlike most of them her's prolonged contact with other creatures, especially citizens of the Golden Empire, opened her horizons ... a bit. Tsunami found purpouse in her eternal struggles to became better warrior. Selfperfection, to burn out weaknesses in the heat of conflict and arise better in the end than in the beggining. That's her main motivation. And unflinching loyalty towards Golden Empire.

Outlook:
On the first look, she is like goddes of war ... More thoroughly look will reveal shocking truth. She is living statue of breathtakingly perfect woman, a work of genius ... devoted completly to his masterpiece. Gold marble was crafted in such way, that it create illusion of living flesh. Illusion deepens when she moves, because perfectly scluptured muscles move beneath golden skin as if part of living body. Even marble hair move like cirrus of gold in the wind, strong enough to move them. All doubts are dissapearing with touch. Even barest contact reveal that it is marble, despite that that it move like flesh. Her armaments are functional first, of great quality wich is visible because all are masterpieces on their own.

Background:
"Hey, Angel ! Do You remeber our last meeting ? Thou saved my existence, and this of my brethen. Since I heard that You like elefants, and don't want any rewards ... I had scluptured this image of one of the elefant-warriors from my homeland. Please, accept this small gift ..."
Planetar blushed, seeing smiling faces all around and moving her hands halfway towards the figurine of zovar wielding elefant-man, carved precisely from golden marble, very similiar to the hands that were giving it to her. Figurine was raising weapon above his head, it's expression so convicing that it were half expected that little warrior will cry his victory to the skyes at any moment. Perfectly scluptured face of a nymph was directed towards undecided Planetar, when her's face crossed emotion resembling slight worry.
"Why thou came here just now, Tsunami the Maug ?"
Asked celestial, finally reciving her gift ... her eyes filled with compassion.
"Her August Majesty decided that I should go ... And since peace finally returned to the Golden Empire, I had no work and were thrashing around and spoiling good marble. Is new offensive coming at the Bastion ?"
Asked Maug, easying her stance, as if to ready herself for inmediate fight.
"No, champion of light. I just heard strange gossip, that's all ..."
Maug laughed heartily, showing all teeth in joyfull grimace. Wich were bit unnerving to those knowing her, because Tsunami was smiling similiar way in the heat of battle.
"That the dark forces will invade my homeland ? They already did. We stopped them, and eradicated army sent against us. Great battles that will be remembered for thousands of years !"
Planetar surrouded herself with her wings as if suddenly frozen. She looked away and spoke with sad tone.
"I wasn't speaking of this ... Maybe it was just gossip. Do You need a Gate to Your home ?"
Maug smiled from ear to ear, and bowed her head to the Planetar.
"I will owe You. I'm thousandfold gratefull ... Could You open it to the kingdom of Yinshin ? I have gift for druids dwelling there."
Planetar nodded, unusually quiet, and recited the spell. With loud thunderclap gate opened wide. But on the other side wasn't burned wasteland of Yinshin kingdom ... There was nothingness. Grey vortex very similar to Astral Plane, bun not it. Surrouding celestial warriors opened their eyes in wide shock of the whole situation, and Planetar dropped to her knees, disbelief written all over her face, hugging desperately figurine of the elefant warrior. She whispered.
"It cannot be ..."
Maug stared straigh into the terryfing abyss where once was her homeworld.
"That's why she sent me away ... trough Bastion of Hope as well."
And Tsunami stepped into the gate, sinking momentarily into the abyss of nothingness. Grim faced Solar stopped one of the celestials who wanted to step in her trail.
"Don't ... Maug could wanted to die with her homeworld. It's her right. We have duties here. Eansha, could You close this gate ... please ? Let's spill blood of evil responsible for this destruction !"
Boomed Solar with powerful voice, raising troop's morale a bit after this dark event. And he looked at gathering hordes of demonkind.
"Chmm ... If nail is standing out, it will be rammed in line. That's why Demons will never give up. Come on folks ! We have fight to make."
Angels and others soldiers of light assembled on the fortress walls. Demonic roars filled etarnal night surrounding them.

Echem, and one thing ... the most important opinion. Isida, can I sneak in Tsunami to the alternates ? :o :p
 
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*sigh*

Isida, may I whip up a spell that works as invisibility for blindsight, blindsense, tremorsense, and scent? Since Ferrix is getting blindsight from a 3rd-level minunte/level power, it shouldn't be more than 2nd or 3rd level. I could put it on either or both of the assassin spell list or the bard spell list.

With the -80 penalty, someone with no ranks in Spot or Listen has a better than 50/50 chance of finding me with blindsight, which is granted by a spell that's all of third level. I doubt very much I would have put up with this all the way up to 30th level when items that grant blindsight out to 60 feet continuously cost less than 100,000 gold.

It's kinda bothering me that I can't realistically sneak up to a character who has spent less than 1/43 of his gold, and no other resources, on countering one of the things I'm supposedly best at. :(
 
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There is a power, it's called Cloud Mind. It conceals you from someone regardless of their types of senses. However, it is a power which gives a will save on the part of the person who are attempting to conceal yourself from. It is close range, level 2. It is one target only. The mass cloud mind is a level 6 power.

srd said:
Cloud Mind
Telepathy [Mind-Affecting]
Level: Psion/wilder 2
Display: None
Manifesting Time: 1 standard action
Range: Close (25 ft. +5 ft./2 levels)
Target: One creature
Duration: 1 min./level
Saving Throw: Will negates
Power Resistance: Yes
Power Points: 3

You make yourself completely undetectable to the subject by erasing all awareness of your presence from its mind. This power has the following effects.

First, you are invisible and inaudible to the creature. It cannot even detect your presence by means of blindsense, blindsight, scent, or tremorsense. It cannot pinpoint your location by any means.

Second, the subject remains unaware of your actions, provided you do not make any attacks or cause any obvious or directly threatening changes in the subject's environment. If you attack the subject creature, the effect ends.

If you take an action that creates a sustained and obvious change in the subject's environment - for example, attacking a creature aside from the subject or moving a large or attended object the subject can see - the subject immediately gains a new saving throw against the power. An ally of the subject creature that is able to see or perceive you can use a move action to warn the subject and thereby grant it a new saving throw.

Cloud Mind, Mass
Telepathy [Mind-Affecting]
Level: Psion/wilder 6
Target: One creature/level
Power Points: 11
As cloud mind, except as noted above. Each creature is affected individually.

Sometimes there are things which just surpass the normal means of skills or imply massive penalties to them.

Oh yeah, bonuses to disguise from Alter Self should not apply when someone has True Seeing and sees right through the spell.
 
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I don't want that. I just want a direct, arms-race style "this spell counters its opposite number of exactly the same level" sort of spell. If I'm standing out in the open, you'll still see me. If I wander into you without being prepared, the blindsight finds me. I cast this spell, it negates your spell of the same level (as far as it concerns me), and I actually get to use my 64 ranks in hiding skills and piles of gold spent on them.

Considering that I'm practically the only person here who has to roll for Akumunaga's nightmare save (which is completely goosed for a high save DC), you can't honestly think that cloud mind is a viable option.

And alter self alters your self. I couldn't care less if you can see my true form or not, especially since my dark stalker form looks exactly like my usual form, except with pale skin, red eyes, and significantly less flamboyant clothing. Dark stalkers have a racial bonus to Hide and Move Silently. I get that bonus.

Sometimes there are things which just surpass the normal means of skills or imply massive penalties to the [?]

Yes. And then it's pretty reasonable to expect that there be some form of magical counter, isn't it?

EDIT: And that's the case I'm making. No more out of me, Isida. :)
 
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The only two official spells/powers which thwart blindsight/sense are targeted spells which allow will saves (cloud mind from XPH and hide from dragons from draconomicon). I think there is a very specific reason for that and would not suggest a spell which countered it as a blanket effect.

The only thing blindsight/sense cannot see is an ethereal creature. So I think that is the only blanket effect which should avoid blindsight. Which mind you is a 9th level spell.
 
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