OotS 500

Yeah, and a hint of orange shirt and little scraggly hairs, I think that's brother.

But who knows when Rich figured that out - it could have been a hundred strips later that he decided that. Either way it's brilliant.
 

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I don't see why Eugene would do what he has done. Fellow had to have a pretty good idea of himself when he made that oath, so why would he make something he knew he couldn't follow up on? Then why would'nt he forsake it? There's gotta be some kind of spell for that. Or he could have changed gods.

Now, I can see why he would burden his some with it as an old man. But I think that act would throw him way off of the good axis there. Burdening his own son so he can avoid cloud purgatory? Man, that's screwed up.
 

FalcWP said:
Nope. Shojo admits he isn't Lawful. I don't think Eugene will ever admit he isn't Lawful Good.

Exactly. Shojo and Eugene are both abrasive and sneaky and underhanded about their methods, but Shojo was self-aware enough to know it and cop to it (at least to non-paladins). And he was doing what he did for the good of his city (and the world), not his personal comfort. That's why he's Chaotic Good.
 

vongarr said:
I don't see why Eugene would do what he has done. Fellow had to have a pretty good idea of himself when he made that oath, so why would he make something he knew he couldn't follow up on?

Eugene swearing the oath is shown explicitly in Start of Darkness. Suffice to say that it makes more sense once you see that scene.
 




You know, I have not always been a faithful OotS reader, so I have missed a lot of stuff with Roy's dad, but damn I never realized before just how much of [non-grandma friendly word] he is.
 

There's also quite a bit about Roy and his Dad in On the Origin of PCs which no fan should be without.

Note that I didn't qualify that - you can be a fan of ANYTHING and need to have a copy of this book. Doesn't matter if you're an OotS fan - just a fan.
 

vongarr said:
I don't see why Eugene would do what he has done. Fellow had to have a pretty good idea of himself when he made that oath, so why would he make something he knew he couldn't follow up on? Then why would'nt he forsake it? There's gotta be some kind of spell for that. Or he could have changed gods.

Well, from what Roy's mom said, it really sounds as if Eugene was, in his youth (and life) a man of rather intense passions. That when something struck him as being important, it was *all* important. Winning Sara's heart was very, very important to him... for a time. Defeating Xykon and avenging his master was very, very important to him... for a time. He might logically have known that he wouldn't or couldn't complete that quest, but if, for a period of time, he thought it was the most important thing in the world, he'd swear that oath.

As for forsaking it, changing gods, etc. Its entirely possible that he *couldn't*. You swear a blood oath, to the death and beyond, there may not be an escape clause. This isn't like signing a cell phone contract, where you can pay money and leave if you want to... its serious. And its also possible that Eugene never wanted to forsake that oath because that wouldn't be Lawful and might not be Good, either. He obviously thinks that he's Lawful Good, despite a lot of evidence to the contrary, and there's a big difference between dying while the oath is still on the table (even if you're deliberately not pursuing it, which he wasn't) and actively going and trying to get out of said oath. The first probably isn't Lawful; the second pushes you over towards Chaotic.
 

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