Order of the Stick #407!

Pielorinho said:
I think it's significant that Miko's change in character really dates back to Roy's rejection of her (incredibly arrogant and patronizing) romantic overtures toward her. Prior to that, she'd seen the OotS as a group whose goodness would be judged by Azure City and was basically sympathetic to them. After that, she looked for basically any excuse to consider them evil.

Sorry, Sabine, but you kinda pale against a woman scorned.

Daniel

hmm, neverwinter nights anyone?

btw, it seems that the entirety of this hinges on miko's view of roy as evil.

anyone remember that "detect evil" that made her go into attack mode?

and in her view, only evil cooperates with evil. so anyone that cooperates with roy is by extension evil.

jumping to conclusions indeed ;)
 
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LoneWolf23 said:
...And thus we have a good reason for Nale recruiting her into the Linear Guild.. As a counterpoint to Belkar.
She's audacious enough to become known as Miko-the-Bold, or Mikobold for short, so she can be the new anti-Belkar.
 



Below is an answer to jeffh, spoilerized to try to avoid wholesale dreailing of the thread.
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jeffh said:
So someone WAS nearly that silly, in other words.
I don't understand. Who do you think was nearly silly enough to suggest that a raised Shojo would negate the immorality of the execution?

The above is not what people, including myself, who believe in consequence-based ethics normally hold; it looks more like an unfriendly caricature of it. The view is (most plausibly) based on the reasonably expected consequences of one's actions; you don't hold bizarre flukes against someone.
If by "the above", you refer to the woodsman example, that was actually posited by the "Consequence basis" folks, and was not constructed to caricaturize. If we both agree that the example is absurd, then we do so approaching from opposite directions.

Nevertheless, it was not Shojo's death that made Miko's actions Evil in the strip, so the comic seems to support the argument that it was the action and the intent which determined morality, and not consequences.[/sblock]
 


Driddle said:
Should she have been able to kill him with one stroke? It didn't look like a crit to me.

One of the other threads noted that if he didn't have great con to start with, the penalties for aging can leave a 14th-level Aristocrat without many hit points. Barring that, a full power attack with a two-handed weapon (probably heavily enchanted, as Miko's likely a few levels higher than the OotS -- and they're 12th-level) can do a fair bit of damage. Of course, the only reason for an ari 14 with the resources of a city-state at his command not to have an Amulet of Health +6 is that he's got something better in the amulet slot...
 
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Driddle said:
Should she have been able to kill him with one stroke? It didn't look like a crit to me.

It nearly bisected him from his left shoulder to his right hip.

What more do you want to see before it 'looks like a crit' to you?

-Hyp.
 


drothgery said:
One of the other threads noted that if he didn't have great con to start with, the penalties for aging can leave a 14th-level Aristocrat without many hit points. Barring that, a full power attack with a two-handed weapon (probably heavily enchanted, as Miko's likely a few levels higher than the OotS -- and they're 12th-level) can do a fair bit of damage. Of course, the only reason for an ari 14 with the resources of a city-state at his command not to have an Amulet of Health +6 is that he's got something better in the amulet slot...
Like, say, a Philactery of Faithfulness? ;)

But I say she didn't lose her Paladin status! The stick up her a** didn't fall off!
 

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