[OT] Spider-Man...who's interested? (possible spoilers)

[Crothian]

Same re: Morbius. He's supposed to be in Blade soon.

My bet is the new spidey suit makes an appearance in Movie 2, so venom shows up in Movie 3. That puts Doc Oc in #2 as the most probable candidate. Personally, I always liked the Scorpion. We'll have to wait and see.

Greg

They did set up the Hobgoblin to be a villian. Perhaps we'll have more then one in the next movie.

 

[Mouseferatu]

Same re: Morbius. He's supposed to be in Blade soon.

Actually, that rumor was nixed some time ago. People thought he was going to be in Blade 2, but that obviously didn't happen.

My bet is the new spidey suit makes an appearance in Movie 2, so venom shows up in Movie 3. That puts Doc Oc in #2 as the most probable candidate.

I dunno. This is going to sound strange, but while the idea of an alien symbiote costume works in comic books, I don't think it would fit in with the "reality" constructed by the movie.

But there are plenty of other ways to create Venom that would involve a different origin but the same final result. Just off the top of my head, I can imagine what might happen if someone discovered the accident that gave Peter his powers and tried to recreate it, but something went wrong...

They did set up the Hobgoblin to be a villian. Perhaps we'll have more then one in the next movie.

Man I hope not. Not about the Hobgoblin, he's a great villain. (Although his costume would really have to look more organic than the armored GG.) But I don't want to see multiple villains in a Spidey movie. I think that was one of the biggest mistakes the Batman franchise made. More than one villain, you can't focus on either to the extent they deserve.

IMHO, of course.

 

[Barendd Nobeard]

HAH! I saw her. I didn't recognize her at first, but the voice gave it away.


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She was the one in the yellow clothes (jacket, windbreaker?) who said, "A guy with eight arms...?"

Greg

Thanks. Now I remember. I also didn't catch Bruce Campbell untl the end credits. Man, I gotta start paying attention!

 

[Agamon]

Here's how'd I'd do the sequals. Have Doc Ock be the baddie in the next movie, maybe along with Electro or the Lizard. Spidey somehow finds his new black costume/symbiote in the middle of the movie. He finds out at the end of the movie that the costume is joining with him and gets rid of it. Pete develops a negative relationship with Eddie Brock during the movie (probably just one-sided, Pete knows little about it). Harry finds out his dad was Gobby. MJ finds out Pete is Spidey.

Movie 3, Harry has used the time beteewn the movies to use Oscorp to remake himself as the new Goblin/Hobgoblin. The symbiote merges with Brock to become Venom. He's gotta fight both of them (though they don't really team up, like in the lame Batman sequals). Pete and MJ get married.

Or something like that.

 

[Negative Zero]

Spiderman was AWESOME! the best superhero movie to date! the webslining work done was perfect! i loved the way he flailed around when he first started doing it. too cool! and the even got some of those awesome comicbook poses in!

Toby was PERFECT as Peter. there's only one time in the whole movie where the story tells you the Peter is a geek, but from his acting, it's NEVER in question. great stuff! Defoe does an AMAZING job as GG. that scene where he's talking to the Goblin in the mirror was so well done! and i LOVED the portrayal of Jonah. J.K. Simmons NAILED it!

GG's costume really didn't bug me at all. neither did the mask. i can see why it would bug some people though. and, minor adjustments for movie transitioning aside, i was really impressed with the faithfulness of the movie to the Spidey mythos.

one of my favourite scenes was that fight with Flash, where Flash swings a punch, Peter dodges it, looks over at him, looks back at the fist, and then moves back into position, all before Flsh has a chance to pull his arm back!

oh, and for those of you who did see it, wasn't that Hulk teaser too damn KOOL!!!!!!!!!

one very happy camper
~NegZ

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btw:
did anyone else know that Macho Man Randy Savage's last name was Poffo??? i mean, Randy Poffo! seriously! ROTFLMAO

 

[Nareau]

I'm surprised nobody's mentioned all the product placement. Some of those money-shots were just too much for me (the Dr. Pepper can, the Cingular billboard, etc.) Commercials like that screw with my suspension of disbelief.

Otherwise, I loved it.

So, anybody feel like compiling a list of easter-eggs? There were a lot of references and visual jokes in the movie that were easy to miss. I didn't catch any of the "Future Villians" references that people have pointed out. I'd love to see it again, and spend more time looking for these things.

 

[Daebryn Bladestorm]

Any news or rumors as to who the next villian will be in Spiderman 2? Or just who do you want?

I just watched the Spider-Mania special on E!, and in an interview with Sam Raimi he specifically mentions both Doc Ock and the Lizard. He also mentioned that they were going to add a second female lead (Felicia Hardy?) to the sequel.

 

[Negative Zero]

i caught a quick reference to the guy who turns into Lizard (can't remember his name right now) during the movie, so my money's on him otherwise, i'd deffinitely go for Doc Oc

 

[coyote6]

But I don't want to see multiple villains in a Spidey movie. I think that was one of the biggest mistakes the Batman franchise made. More than one villain, you can't focus on either to the extent they deserve.

I think it might work, if they do it right. Maybe have one "thug" (say, Scorpion or Rhino -- a mercenary criminal type without a complicated motivation for their villainous ways, given powers or gizmos by someone else) and one "mastermind" (Hobgoblin, Doc Ock, etc.), who possibly arranges for the thug to get his powers and definitely gives the orders. I think that could work, if done right.

I definitely agree that having two brand-new villains with deep motivations & origins is probably a bad idea. It at least hasn't been successfully pulled off, as yet. OTOH, movies have managed to do well while conveying a hero and a villain's origins, motivations, and all. I don't see why doing two villains would necessarily be impossible.

Another alternative might be to have two villains with entwined origins. Say, involve Dr. Octopus in the Lizard's creation somehow, so that Doc Ock ends up somehow & somewhat in control of the transformed Dr. Connors.

I'm not sure whether Venom ought to be a mastermind or a thug, though. I was never a huge Venom fan...

 

[coyote6]

i caught a quick reference to the guy who turns into Lizard (can't remember his name right now) during the movie

Dr. Connors. Peter mentions that he was fired by Dr. Connors.

J. Jonah also mentions something about how Brock, the Bugle's photographer, can't get any clear photos of Spider-Man. Eddie Brock is, of course, Venom.

If the second film has Dr. Octopus, the Lizard, and Felicia "Black Cat" Hardy, plus Spidey & MJ and presumably supporting cast (Harry, folks at the Bugle) -- well, Raimi's going to have a tough job, that's for sure.