[OT] Spider-Man...who's interested? (possible spoilers)

[Negative Zero]

Connors, that's right! and i completely missed the Eddie Brock bit too. *hangs his head in shame* i, on the other hand, really liked Venom ... well the symbiot (sp?) anyway. i really wish Spidey could have kept that black suit. *sigh* but the good guys never get to keep anything really good they get. ESPECIALLY when he's Spiderman!

~NegZ

 

[Game Control]

I loved the movie!

The anticipation leading to the movie eventually lead me to start collecting the Ultimate Spiderman serie.

Speaking of the serie; I gotta say that Ultimate Spiderman's Green Goblin looks infinitely better than either that of the movie or the Amazing Spiderman serie. Well, IMO anyway. Also, Harry Osborn was so shallow you don't get why Peter Parker is friend with him.

Well, overall it's a great movie.

Two things I've noticed that haven't been mentionned;

I think MJ realizes that Parker is Spiderman at the end.

As he walks away after telling her that they'll just be firend, stay focused on her face in the background. First she is crying than suddenly she seems to realize something and puts her hand to her mouth in the classic ''Oh My god'' pause. Then she fixes her eyes on the back of Peter Parker and she doesn't seem to be sobbing anymore.

Finally, If you stayed through the credits, you would have heard the Spiderman's theme song from the old cartoon in the 80S.

''
Spiderman, Spiderman
does whatever a spider can
spins a web, any size
catches thieves just like flies
look out here comes the Spiderman
''

etc.

It's after ''Hero'' by the singer of Nickelback and ''That's what we're all about'' of Sum41.

 

[Negative Zero]

oh absolutely MJ knows. or at the very least there's a big "could it be???" going on. t'was the kiss y'see. that's what did him in. apparently either ol' pete is so good that upside-down or rightside-up, he's still a great kisser ... either that or he's so bad, that it's exactly the same no matter what direction he's facing, up or down!

~NegZ

 

[Henry]

LOL, Neg Zero!!

Seriously, there is a saying that everyone kisses a certain way. I doubt MJ had been kissing ANYONE between the time she laid one on Spider-man, and she kissed peter. It don't take a genius to match mannerisms when you've spent time with two people who are supposed to be different, but are actually the same person. Everything from the voice, to the comments ("I was in the neighborhood") would conceivably add up over time. So there is strong evidence to believe that MJ's face at the end was an "Oh my God" face.

If anything gave it away, it was his "I will always protect you" speech.

 

[Isida Kep'Tukari]

First off, I loved the movie. I really felt like I was watching a comic book come to life, which was all that counted.

Now, on to Ebert's review... It's been mentioned a time or two. Good ole' Roger Ebert wrote a rather pessimistic review of Spider-Man, which included a comment that just had me laughing my posterior off. In regard to Peter discovering his powers "...but insufficiently amazed (or frightened) by them".

Oh man, now that was priceless. Now, what would you do if you got bitten by a spider? Really? If there was one missing from the "super spider" display and I was bitten by one, I might have told the scientist and asked if there was anything I they needed to do.

If I dismissed the possibility of the super-spider biting me, but still felt really poorly a few hours later, wouldn't you have told your guardians? I know if I was feeling as bad as Peter seemed to be, the last thing I would do would be to lock myself in my room.

How about you just dismissed that as stomach flu, but next morning you were able to see without glasses for the first day in your life? I've had to wear glasses since the fourth grade, if I woke up able to see without them, I'd be running downstairs carolling for joy. Discovering I suddenly has muscles... I might start to get freaked. Finding that I stuck to things, could shoot webs out of my wrists, and had better reflexes than than Michael Jordan? I'd wonder what the hell was wrong with me.

What would Peter would have done in the "real world"? Probably spent his transformation in a hospital and the rest of his life in a scientific institute. Wow, that makes a great movie.

Lighten up Ebert, if people in comic books reacted to their powers the way that most people probably would, the plot would come to a total standstill. What would be the point? You don't want a hero to be too awed or scared of his own powers. You have to have them be comfortable with them and use them, so that they can battle evil. I thought Peter's little "kid with a new toy" scenes where he explored his powers were great. Just enough for believeability without straying into dull reality.

 

[Tortoise]

LOL, Neg Zero!!

Seriously, there is a saying that everyone kisses a certain way. I doubt MJ had been kissing ANYONE between the time she laid one on Spider-man, and she kissed peter. It don't take a genius to match mannerisms when you've spent time with two people who are supposed to be different, but are actually the same person. Everything from the voice, to the comments ("I was in the neighborhood") would conceivably add up over time. So there is strong evidence to believe that MJ's face at the end was an "Oh my God" face.

If anything gave it away, it was his "I will always protect you" speech.

Don't forget the situation on the bridge where Green goblin offers him a choice "Save the woman he loves or the kids."

Plus when he's holding her and the cable car, he calls her MJ which is something only Peter calls her.

 

[Sodalis]

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tortoise: actually Harry calls her MJ too (thanksgiving scene), which was sort of a thing for me cause in the comics-it was a strict Peter thing. It was his pet name for her- which she hates, but grows to like cause it is Peter.

Also, she can piece out that Spidey was very familiar with her by the way he addressed her during the cable car scene. Being a hero, he was supposed to be unbiased. But since he chose to go after her first instea dof teh car (even though itw as a logical fhoice to go for both) meant that he has a closer connection to her than to all the kids combined.

the kiss also gave it away

I am pretty sure the next villain would be DocOc because of the obvious rivalry between Oscorp and Quest. And sice Oscorp is now without a head (all the board members are dead) this is the perfect time for Quest to seize control. The fall of Oscorp would make for a perfect intiator for Harry's rage to become the GG. his growth will prolly come at the end of #2 and throughout #3. making him a supervillain in #4 (if they take it that far)

During this, a subplot of a shuttle will be launched which will come back with the Venom Symbiote, which will set up #3.

I really thought that there should have been an additional scen at the end. After the funeral (and before the MJ PP talk) Harry should have come home, angry at Spidey and trashed the house. In his rage, he accidentally stumbles into his father's secret room, where he finds the mask. The scene pans out into darkness as you hear norman's laughter fade pierce the night...

I loved the movie- but my GF could not understand why things happen:
a genetically altered spider bites him- so waht? it was part of teh story.

he found out he got the power and started jumping across buildibng: its a guy thing- when you find out you can do something- you do it ... and even push your limits sometimes (i take drag racing s example)

He should have gotten the girl: the gift/ curse quote was beautiful

his uncle died for no reason: it was a reason for him to accept responsibility as spidey. if a normal guy gets those powers, he would abuse them (i know i would) but since he got hit so hard with a life's lesson, he was forced to accept responsibility.

once again- i loved the movie...

 

[Vargo]

Loved it myself

...and so did my wife, who has not been impressed by any superhero film other than the original Superman, and (to a much lesser extent) the original Batman.

In fact, the only fault she had with it was (in her mind) how little time they gave to MJ discovering her feelings for Peter - she felt that the final scene was a bit forced. I kind of agree with her, but at the same time it's a superhero flick, not a soap opera.

The ending, IMO, was just about right. I too have a problem with the "disposable female lead" issue, and given just what Peter's just been through, I'd do the same damn thing myself. Ebert can go relieve himself up a rope, I liked this film. (Hey, was it him who didn't like My Neighbor Totoro? If so, then I'm not surprised he had issues with Spiderman - and he should put down the crack pipe and take 10 steps back.)

BTW, I have *NEVER* read a Spiderman comic book, and am only very briefly familiar with some of the backstory from the sunday-only comic strip in the paper during the late '70s-early '80s and maybe an episode or two of the cartoon.

Yeah, I loved it.

 

[Tom Cashel]

I have the right to state my opinion on these boards and have it taken seriously, your little “sigh” was rude and it implies that you consider my thoughts no more valid than a small child’s. Like I just need to have the plot explained to me and I’ll be quiet again.

And to recap your opinion...

How dare they string me along with Peter Parker boo hooing and not wooing for two hours and in the end when she confesses her love he sighs and walks away like a big gay nothing. Peter Parker is a homosexual. (I’m really just frustrated, I don’t mean this and I have nothing against alternative lifestyles, but I heard harsher words yelled out at the end anyway) The INTRODUCTION to the movie called it a love story, and all I get in the end is a blatantly out of character move from the protagonist so that we’d all feel that much more inclined to go to the freaking sequel.

You sound ignorant, homophobic and insensitive. "It was gay" is the criticism of a 14-year old. If you don't want to be sighed at like a small child, then try not to sound like one, huh?

You do indeed have the right to state your opinions on these boards, but you are completely wrong in thinking that I have to take them seriously. Especially when you have the nerve to say it like that...your "I have nothing against alternative lifestyles" comment, in this context, is so blatantly hypocritical.

Criminy...I don't care if you dislike the film, that's fine. But what a stupid bunch of comments.

 

[JacktheRabbit]

Re: dont get mad, im just saying. . . .

You are 12 arent you.

So you really think Joe Average 18 year old is going to turn into 1/3 rambo 1/3 Jet Li and 1/3 "Insert some dumb romance star" in mere seconds from getting bit by a spider?

How truly dumb.

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I know I’ll be going against the crowd with this one, but I can’t hold it in a moment longer . . . . what a dissatisfying piece of garbage! (note: I am not a Spiderman fan, I have nothing against it but I expected to see a good movie, and I didn’t)

Sweet merciful invisible-man-in-the-sky, I sat in that theatre for two hours waiting for Spiderman to grow some nuts to go with his webshooters and get with the girl – the sexy, sexy now red headed Kirsten Dunst – and what do I get for it? The big gay spider copout. The whole theatre erupted with noise when the credits rolled by, and it wasn’t clapping. I’d like to say something constructive, but I just can’t do it right now. Bad. BAD! Naughty movie!

How dare they string me along with Peter Parker boo hooing and not wooing for two hours and in the end when she confesses her love he sighs and walks away like a big gay nothing. Peter Parker is a homosexual. (I’m really just frustrated, I don’t mean this and I have nothing against alternative lifestyles, but I heard harsher words yelled out at the end anyway) The INTRODUCTION to the movie called it a love story, and all I get in the end is a blatantly out of character move from the protagonist so that we’d all feel that much more inclined to go to the freaking sequel.

Another thing that bothered me, did anyone else find people laughing at the absolute wrong moments? As Peter pours his heart out to MJ in the hospital next to his aunt – you know, the whole “I talked to spiderman and told him about you . . . .” thing – most of the people in the audience started laughing. It happened again as MJ confessed her true feelings at the end, it seemed like the mere mention of the word “love” sent a shiver of laughs or chuckles through the audience. Is love dead? Can a love story not be taken seriously anymore? This bothered me because despite my dissatisfaction with the ending I thought the acting was spectacular and I don’t see why it wasn’t taken more seriously.