[ot] star wars kid

[Gothmog]

Originally posted by Sixchan:

Motive doesn't mean much. All that matters is the result.

Actually, motive does matter in most court systems. And it would in this case as well.

People who Actually laughed - If they laughed in his face, then yes, I would support those lawsuits.

So, if you make an ass of yourself in a public place, and people laugh at you, you have the right to get revenge on them, and/or sue? Man, you are messed up.

Depends. Did the columbine kids target only those who picked on them?

Are you kidding? EVERYONE gets picked on at some point in their life- get over it. I was made fun of by a girl in high school for asking her out- so now its cool for me to blow her head off? Get a grip. Reality check- people who get picked on usually are picked on because they are being idiots in public and/or trying to force their way into social situations they don't belong in. The girl I asked out was a "popular" girl, and I was in the geek crowd- I was exposing myself to ridicule by trying to fit in somewhere I wasn't accepted. No harm done, but I realized it was MY fault. Right or wrong, society has expected norms that most people use to relate to other human behavior, and when someone violates those customs- they are targets of derision and singling out. The Columbine kids were already mentally disturbed, and engaged in behaviors that singled them out and invited derision by their classmates. The fault was theirs, not their classmates. Same thing with the Star Wars kid- he voluntarily engaged in weird behavior (even weirder for a 15-16 year old), and didn't expect that if someone found out, he would be made fun of?

So? Revenge is a part of life. It happens while you are alive. While you are alive, you may be victim of revenge. Life's not fair.

Revenge is a part of life only if you let it be. Revenge actually accomplishes nothing in the long run except hard feelings, potential injury, and a never-ending cycle of hatred. Just look at the various ethnic/racial violence around the world. You're advocating that? I'm glad you are not in a position of power.

We all feel sorry for the kid- nobody is denying that. But what you advocate is sheer anarchy and hatred for the joy of it. Those kids who uploaded the video were not rogue elements, terrorists, or splinter political groups- they were kids playing a joke. I'd hope you are making these extreme and hateful comments to make a point or for sheer cussedness, but if you really feel this much venom and indignation, I'd step back and ask yourself why you are so angry.

 

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

Those kids who uploaded the video were not rogue elements, terrorists, or splinter political groups

But what if they WERE??!?!??! Ahhhhh! Terrorists are now spreading embarassing videos of us around. THE WORLD IS ENDING!!!

 

[Qlippoth]

Let's say the lawsuit (somehow) goes through and SWKid's family "wins":

...does anyone think any of the kids who uploaded the video will feel badly about their actions?

(Edit: that is, will they feel badly about it while they are still children?)

 

[Bastoche]

Thing is NOBODY here actually knows what they're talking about:

1) few if any of you lives in Canada, nobody knows of their laws system.

2) none of you actually met star wars kid.

3) most if not all the information conserning the tape's property is false. It wasn't the prankster's tape is was the school's. Star wars kids borrowed the camera and the tape from his school's library. And the pranksters' only purpose WAS to harm to kid.

And to the guy who said he had a tape of himself playing Claudius, show us you have balls and post it on the net. Then and only then will you have something to say about SWK having lived a similar experience.

In this, I consider two important points:

1) most people who thinks that this sueing issue is unsuited, the believe the kid is responsible for making an ass of himself

2) you actually thinks this is funny.

Summing these two points up equals our fr04128491k'up "society". People have no respect for others. When a guy makes an ass of himself, he should hide up and righteously suffer the conscequences, while you idiots enjoy the show. This is sick.

P.S. I'm from Canada and I actually read a newspaper relating the issue with first hand experience. Not Nth hand information from some usenet where you can download the new version of the re-re-re-edited SWK video.

 

[Sixchan]

But what you advocate is sheer anarchy and hatred for the joy of it.

I'm advocating quite the opposite, actually. Did you ever read Brave New World?

 

[stevelabny]

where do i nominate this for WORST THREAD EVER?

there are TWO types of people who LIKE the SWK videos.

1>those who think that "geeks" are uncool, and gather together with other cool people to pick on geeks just because theyre different. they laugh because "the kid is such a dork" and want to steal his lunch money

2>those of us who ARE geeks and have either had a pretend lightsaber or some other equivalent and think this is funny because we've had our own funny embarassing moments and this reminds us of them, and makes us laugh for that reason.

the hundreds of re-edits of SWK and the newest thing i saw yesterday...the SWK web-game are DEFINITELY funny.
they are funny in the same way that all the other internet fads like ALL YOUR BASE are funny. a bunch of geeks take one thing that is mildly amusing and blow it into a fad that NOT only reaches some other geeks but also the fringe of mainstream society that is slowly becoming more geekish through exposure to the internet.

people on this board probably spend a decent amounto f time with geeks, or on the internet or both. but if you go to work tomorrow and ask the people in accounting if they know who SWK is or what ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US means they will have NO CLUE.

anyone who recognize ghyslain on the street as SWK probably thinks hes a cult-hero or f-level celebrity. the only people who are "picking" on him are the same dumb jocks and cool kids who probably picked on him before.

ghyslain is apparently a loser. he cant deal with being picked on at school ? hes just been giving an out from the whole thing. he can be a frickin celebrity if he wants. ENCOURAGE the SWK videos,take the money the strangers gave you, make a website, make t-shirts and coffee mugs and make some more money for the next few months while you can. get on tv. now youre not a loser geek. youre a rich celebrity geek. but hes apparently too dumb to put this together. he WANTS to be the loser. and the parents encoruage it by trying to sue rather than capitalize. now hes just as much of a schmuck as the kids who pick on him.

anyone who thinks that SWK has been wronged has some issues of their own they need to have checked.

 

[Sixchan]

anyone who thinks that SWK has been wronged has some issues of their own they need to have checked.

Was this very personal insult intentional on your part?

 

[stevelabny]

Was this very personal insult intentional on your part?

Well, lets see...i said "anyone who thinks SWK has been wronged has some issues of their own they need to have checked"

so firstly...

thats not personal.

i didnt address it to any one person. it was a comment to a potential group of people, those who think SWK has been wronged.

secondly...

its also not an insult.

i'm stating my opinion that if you think SWK has been wronged, you should have your own issues checked.
calling this an insult means youre putting a negative connotation on having your issues checked. i think its usually a GOOD thing for people with issues to have them checked. if the issues are symptoms of a real problem, they can have it fixed. if the issues are NOT the symptoms of a real problem, well then it comes down to how much a problem that issue is to leading a normal life in society and whether or not they want to change themselves.

i definitely didnt insult anyone, and the only judgment i made was that those who think that SWK has been wronged have issues.
which i stand behind. anyone who looks at this and sees "pain and anguish" instead of "embarassing in an endearing way" has issues.

 

[Sixchan]

Well, lets see...i said "anyone who thinks SWK has been wronged has some issues of their own they need to have checked"

so firstly...

thats not personal.

i didnt address it to any one person. it was a comment to a potential group of people, those who think SWK has been wronged.

The people in said group will take it personally.

secondly...

its also not an insult.

i'm stating my opinion that if you think SWK has been wronged, you should have your own issues checked.
calling this an insult means youre putting a negative connotation on having your issues checked. i think its usually a GOOD thing for people with issues to have them checked. if the issues are symptoms of a real problem, they can have it fixed. if the issues are NOT the symptoms of a real problem, well then it comes down to how much a problem that issue is to leading a normal life in society and whether or not they want to change themselves.

You said the people in that group have "issues". Some people in this group find this insulting.

i definitely didnt insult anyone, and the only judgment i made was that those who think that SWK has been wronged have issues.
which i stand behind. anyone who looks at this and sees "pain and anguish" instead of "embarassing in an endearing way" has issues.

Thanks. At least let it be known that the feeling is mutual, then.

 

[Vocenoctum]

2>those of us who ARE geeks and have either had a pretend lightsaber or some other equivalent and think this is funny because we've had our own funny embarassing moments and this reminds us of them, and makes us laugh for that reason.

For myself, the original video was not funny to me. Looked like a mentally impaired kid secretly video taped and didn't matter to me in the least.

The edit was funny to me though, sound effects and such.
I wouldn't recognize the kid if I met him, and certainly wouldn't laugh at him...

unless he came with the soundeffects...