[ot] star wars kid

PowerWordDumb said:
By "anything" of course, the implied definition is "anything from which you can learn something". Obviously having your head chopped off and kept on life support won't make you physically stronger, and neither will a stroke.

But if there's a learning opportunity in an event, then I believe it's essentially a truism.

And yes, I am pretty darn heartless - but I'm not into prejudging anyone. I just judge people pretty harshly based on their own actions (not those of their ethnic/religious/national/cultural group). I also judge myself by those same harsh standards, so it's all fair. :)

It's difficult to learn something from your experiences when you are so mentally unstable that you are commited to an institution.

As for prejudging people, that's only bad then the prejudgement is wrong. When the culture is one of barbarism, criminality and violence, I see no problem prejudging the members of said culture.
 

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Bastoche said:
...That kid is in a psychiatric institution. When one gets a mental illness, he can never ever get rid of it. It can only be controlled, never cured. Therefore it will NOT make him stronger, quite the contrary. Ever. That kid is now crazy and that's something he'll have to live with for the rest of his days...

Ahem.

One does not "get" a mental illness. One is born with a predispostition toward mental illness, and certain events and stressors can trigger said mental illness.

And while I agree that you can never be "cured" of a mental illness (as biochemical imbalances are congenital), someone diagnosed with a mental illness is capable of overcoming said illness. Just like an alcoholic that no longer drinks can live a full and happy life, a person with a mental illness that gets and accepts effective treatment can go through life happy and fulfilled.

And now back to your regularly scheduled thread.
 

Sixchan said:


It's difficult to learn something from your experiences when you are so mentally unstable that you are commited to an institution.

No, you're in an institution to learn to get over your problems and deal with them in a constructive manner which helps you live a happy and fulfilled life. That's learning by any definition, and that's what this kid is getting - something he would not have gotten prior to his "illness" having been uncovered.

Sixchan said:


As for prejudging people, that's only bad then the prejudgement is wrong. When the culture is one of barbarism, criminality and violence, I see no problem prejudging the members of said culture.

We're gonna have to disagree with each other on this one and leave it at that.
 

Enkhidu said:


Ahem.

One does not "get" a mental illness. One is born with a predispostition toward mental illness, and certain events and stressors can trigger said mental illness.

And while I agree that you can never be "cured" of a mental illness (as biochemical imbalances are congenital), someone diagnosed with a mental illness is capable of overcoming said illness. Just like an alcoholic that no longer drinks can live a full and happy life, a person with a mental illness that gets and accepts effective treatment can go through life happy and fulfilled.

And now back to your regularly scheduled thread.

I agree. That being said, it would not hinder if the world could just drop the video from their computers.
 

PowerWordDumb said:


No, you're in an institution to learn to get over your problems and deal with them in a constructive manner which helps you live a happy and fulfilled life. That's learning by any definition, and that's what this kid is getting - something he would not have gotten prior to his "illness" having been uncovered.

We're not talking about a psychological problem here, we're talking about psychiatry. You get in an institution to dose the drug you'll need to function in society. There sure is an amount of therapy, but it's a disability that just can't be overcome by sheer willpower alone.
 

Sixchan said:
I think people should distribute it and attribute it as a badge of honour to the kid. I mean, we all do it. The video is cool. The kid is cool. It's about time someone made the kid realise how cool it is.

He also deserves a part in Episode III, and on that note, I direct you here.

Very true, I thought the guy was pretty cool when I first saw it, if not brave for being so bold.
 

Originally posted by Bastoche:

On another point, this video distribution violates copyrights IMO. The video was stolen and in my mind is currently distributed without permission. As an independant music artist, I find this rather shocking. That video belongs to that kid and to all those whom got permission from him and no one else.

Actually, to my knowledge, the videotape belongs to the kid who publicized it. According to Waxy.org:

"Originally recorded onto an 8mm tape on November 4, 2002 in the school's studio, the video was never meant to be seen by anyone. After Ghyslain returned the borrowed videotape to his friend, the video sat in a basement for months. On April 19, 2003, Ghyslain's friend stumbled on the tape's secret contents and immediately shared it with friends. They thought it would be a funny prank to encode the video and upload it to Kazaa."

Technically, no legal case could be made in that regard. He has no say in the matter. Distributed without permission? Probably- I doubt Ghislain explicitly allowed it. But since the tape was the property of the kid who distributed it, there is no copyright violation.

This strikes me as being very similar to the South Park where the boys film Cartman in his backyard having a tea party with his dolls. Cartman was stupid enough to do something in a public place, and someone filmed him. Same thing here- this kid recorded himself on a non-secure video device, and when he forgot about it and someone else found it, he was careless.

Finally, on the mental illness thing- this may sound heartless, but a normal person would not be sent to a psychiatric institution over something like this. Yes, it might cause some anxiety, but psychiatric institutions exist to medicate people who already have existing brain abnormalities and the problems associated with them. In those cases, its only a matter of time and circumstances until something tips the person over the edge, and they need biochemical help.

I honestly do feel sorry for the kid, but no one could have known that he would get this messed up over it. However, a lawsuit against the parents of the kids who distributed the video is simply spiteful. The parents of the other children had nothing to do with the video being distributed, and the kids in question have no way to pay back that kind of money. This strikes me as just another way to freeload off other people- and I find that despicable.

I DO think it would be cool for him to be in Episode III- after all- during that entire video, the kid never hits himself with the pole. That takes talent (which I don't have).
 

Gothmog said:
Finally, on the mental illness thing- this may sound heartless, but a normal person would not be sent to a psychiatric institution over something like this. Yes, it might cause some anxiety, but psychiatric institutions exist to medicate people who already have existing brain abnormalities and the problems associated with them. In those cases, its only a matter of time and circumstances until something tips the person over the edge, and they need biochemical help.
I think that if you apply enough stress to anyone they will eventually go nuts. He was being recognised as "Star Wars Kid" by people in the street. He could hardly step outside without some kind of taunting, or at the very least attention he did not want.

I honestly do feel sorry for the kid, but no one could have known that he would get this messed up over it. However, a lawsuit against the parents of the kids who distributed the video is simply spiteful. The parents of the other children had nothing to do with the video being distributed, and the kids in question have no way to pay back that kind of money. This strikes me as just another way to freeload off other people- and I find that despicable.
I don't think the money is the actual issue, here. I think the whole purpose of the lawsuit is to make the kids' lives and that of their families a living hell. Taking all their money is a means to this end. And call me heartless, but the end is one I wholeheatedly support.

I DO think it would be cool for him to be in Episode III- after all- during that entire video, the kid never hits himself with the pole. That takes talent (which I don't have).
It's taken me years to get it right. But all those hours with a fishing rod really paid off, for I am now a Jedi Master.:D
 
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Tarrasque Wrangler said:
Uh, I'm not familiar with any of this, and the link is gone. What was this? Is it like the Bo Staff Guy on Real Ultimate Power?

Boy meets pole. Boy pretends pole is lightsaber. Boy films himself playing with pole. "Friends" upload film to the net.
 

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