Justice is subjective. For instance, I believe that it is justice.
Perhaps it isn't. But that doesn't mean it shouldn't be.Gothmog said:This isn't justice, its petty, money-grubbing opportunistic trash at its worst. Should the kids who uploaded the video be responsible for their actions? Yes. Were they wrong to do so? Yes. Are their actions criminal? Absolutely not.
Yes, I would. Oh, their lives are going to be ruined? I care about as much as they cared for the kid when they uploaded the video. i.e. Not a ****ing bit. As has been said before, life's not fair.Are their families responsible? Absolutely not. So you'd be willing to ruin the lives of families who had nothing to do with uploading the video, for the simple sake of revenge?
This is where and :evilgrin: smiley is appropriate, yes?...severe financial problems.
He is NOT responsible for the action of uploading the tape to the internet. THEY are. Ultimately, THEY are responsible for everything that happens as a result of that. If the kid was at some point going to need mental therapy, then he would have recieved it when he experienced the death of a parent or "severe financial problems". As it happened, he needs it as a result of being Star Wars Kid. He is Star Wars Kid because some people uploaded the video to the internet. Therefore, at least to my mind, they are responsible for triggering his condition.Yes, this would be horribly embarassing, but ultimately HE is responsible for his own actions, HE is responsible for taping himself, and HE is responsible for not erasing the tape. Does this mean that if any of us do something stupid now, and others find out and laugh at us, we are entitled to sue? What a sad world that would be.
KnowTheToe said:Mental illness is serious, but I also believe I read he had a history of mental issues.
Do you believe that people are responsable for their own actions? If so, how can these boys be responsable for other people teasing this kid? If the baby is going to sue, then sue everybody. I despise this kid, his weakness and the way he is addressing his weakness. We can always blame others, but in the end, we are responsable for dealing with our own feelings, actions and perceptions.
Sixchan said:
Depends on how you would define "knowledge". It was mentioned in various news articles when he was first admitted to the mental institution, but I guess the news articles could have been lies or whatever.
Justice is subjective. For instance, I believe that it is justice.
So if the lives of the kids and their families are ruined, it doesn't matter, because life isn't fair.
Motive doesn't mean much. All that matters is the result.Vocenoctum said:You're removing motive from the formula.
Did they seek to ruin the kid when they posted it? No, they were inconsiderate.
Distributors - This is too difficult to do, given that no-one could find them. Also, for all the distributors knew, this could have been uploaded with the permission of the kid.Are the parents also sueing those who cirulated the video? What about the hosting companies? What about those who actually laughed?
So? Revenge is a part of life. It happens while you are alive. While you are alive, you may be victim of revenge. Life's not fair.The revenge mentality isn't "life" someone is setting out to ruin them and inflict harm.
Killing is a bit extreme. Maybe just a few broken bones...If the kid had grabbed a rifle and killed them all, I assume you'd still defend him, since it was all their fault?
Depends. Did the columbine kids target only those who picked on them?I assume you agree with the Columbine kids, since they were picked on, you see their actions as justified?
Yes.But death is so harsh, maybe he should just paralyze them, would that be good enough payback for you?
I'm not ascribing evil motives, since the motive doesn't matter to me.You feel sympathy for the kid, that's fine. He should be helped. Revenge isn't help. I think you're over identifying and ascribing evil motives to the kids who thought it was funny. I'd wager he himself chuckled at it before it was released.
The video is responsible for the Mocking. He should go after both.The video isn't responsible for his condition, the mocking he received is. He's sueing the wrong folks then, he should be going after the 1000's of people that walked up to him laughing and pointing! (Which, I doubt existed except in his own mind. Most likely it was a few people that knew him since most people probably promptly forgot the face of teh kid after the video finished)
Sixchan said:But death is so harsh, maybe he should just paralyze them, would that be good enough payback for you?
Yes.
Wormwood said:
Wow.
I mean....Wow.
Okay, I'm outta here until someone forces Sixchan back on his meds.