[ot] star wars kid

[Wormwood]

Dancing Baby.
Jennicam.
Goatse guy.
I Kiss You!!
Hampster Dance.
All Your Base.
Tourist Guy.
Viking Cats.
"Lightning Bolt!"
Trogdor.
Star Wars Kid.

The life-cycle of an Internet fad is mercifully brief (No matter how much *some* people try to keep them alive).

 

[Gothmog]

Originally posted by Sixchan:

Justice is subjective. For instance, I believe that it is justice.

Apologies for being blunt, but this kind of mindset of entitlement and revenge really pisses me off.

This isn't justice, its petty, money-grubbing opportunistic trash at its worst. Should the kids who uploaded the video be responsible for their actions? Yes. Were they wrong to do so? Yes. Are their actions criminal? Absolutely not. Are their families responsible? Absolutely not. So you'd be willing to ruin the lives of families who had nothing to do with uploading the video, for the simple sake of revenge? Thats not justice, that is the very definition of the petty mindset of Jerry Springer guests- trash. I really hope this one gets tossed out of the courts, anything else would be a travesty.

If something like this sent the kid to a psychiatric hospital, he was going to need help at some point. Life will hand you far worse things to cope with than being the Star Wars kid- like the death of a parent, or severe financial problems. Yes, this would be horribly embarassing, but ultimately HE is responsible for his own actions, HE is responsible for taping himself, and HE is responsible for not erasing the tape. Does this mean that if any of us do something stupid now, and others find out and laugh at us, we are entitled to sue? What a sad world that would be.

 

[Gellion]

If i was that kid, i would have just carried a pole with me everywhere, and beat down whoever tried to make fun of me.

 

[Sixchan]

This isn't justice, its petty, money-grubbing opportunistic trash at its worst. Should the kids who uploaded the video be responsible for their actions? Yes. Were they wrong to do so? Yes. Are their actions criminal? Absolutely not.

Perhaps it isn't. But that doesn't mean it shouldn't be.

Are their families responsible? Absolutely not. So you'd be willing to ruin the lives of families who had nothing to do with uploading the video, for the simple sake of revenge?

Yes, I would. Oh, their lives are going to be ruined? I care about as much as they cared for the kid when they uploaded the video. i.e. Not a ****ing bit. As has been said before, life's not fair.

...severe financial problems.

This is where and :evilgrin: smiley is appropriate, yes?

Yes, this would be horribly embarassing, but ultimately HE is responsible for his own actions, HE is responsible for taping himself, and HE is responsible for not erasing the tape. Does this mean that if any of us do something stupid now, and others find out and laugh at us, we are entitled to sue? What a sad world that would be.

He is NOT responsible for the action of uploading the tape to the internet. THEY are. Ultimately, THEY are responsible for everything that happens as a result of that. If the kid was at some point going to need mental therapy, then he would have recieved it when he experienced the death of a parent or "severe financial problems". As it happened, he needs it as a result of being Star Wars Kid. He is Star Wars Kid because some people uploaded the video to the internet. Therefore, at least to my mind, they are responsible for triggering his condition.

It is no different than giving someone with nut allergies peanuts for a joke. They are not responsible for the person's peanut allergy, but they sure as hell are responsible for triggering it.

 

[KnowTheToe]

Mental illness is serious, but I also believe I read he had a history of mental issues.

Do you believe that people are responsable for their own actions? If so, how can these boys be responsable for other people teasing this kid? If the baby is going to sue, then sue everybody. I despise this kid, his weakness and the way he is addressing his weakness. We can always blame others, but in the end, we are responsable for dealing with our own feelings, actions and perceptions.

Does anybody know if Canada has a cap for sueing parents over their kids actions? In Illinois there is a $2500 or $5000 cap on those lawsuits. The only reason I know is because of the powder puff football game last year where the seniors beat down the Junior girls. I am sure many of you saw the video, it received a lot of national press.

 

[Sixchan]

Mental illness is serious, but I also believe I read he had a history of mental issues.

Do you believe that people are responsable for their own actions? If so, how can these boys be responsable for other people teasing this kid? If the baby is going to sue, then sue everybody. I despise this kid, his weakness and the way he is addressing his weakness. We can always blame others, but in the end, we are responsable for dealing with our own feelings, actions and perceptions.

Nice. I assume you do not consider yourself weak?

 

[Vocenoctum]

Depends on how you would define "knowledge". It was mentioned in various news articles when he was first admitted to the mental institution, but I guess the news articles could have been lies or whatever.


Justice is subjective. For instance, I believe that it is justice.


So if the lives of the kids and their families are ruined, it doesn't matter, because life isn't fair.

You're removing motive from the formula.
Did they seek to ruin the kid when they posted it? No, they were inconsiderate.

Are the parents also sueing those who cirulated the video? What about the hosting companies? What about those who actually laughed?

The revenge mentality isn't "life" someone is setting out to ruin them and inflict harm. If the kid had grabbed a rifle and killed them all, I assume you'd still defend him, since it was all their fault? I assume you agree with the Columbine kids, since they were picked on, you see their actions as justified?

But death is so harsh, maybe he should just paralyze them, would that be good enough payback for you?

You feel sympathy for the kid, that's fine. He should be helped. Revenge isn't help. I think you're over identifying and ascribing evil motives to the kids who thought it was funny. I'd wager he himself chuckled at it before it was released.

The video isn't responsible for his condition, the mocking he received is. He's sueing the wrong folks then, he should be going after the 1000's of people that walked up to him laughing and pointing! (Which, I doubt existed except in his own mind. Most likely it was a few people that knew him since most people probably promptly forgot the face of teh kid after the video finished)

Alas, I'm relatively sure his parents weren't sitting there contemplating lawsuit, until the lawyer got involved. Probably the type of lawyer that waits for such news to reach him. (perhaps via an extensive network of evil crows and winged monkey's, I can't be sure...)

 

[Sixchan]

You're removing motive from the formula.
Did they seek to ruin the kid when they posted it? No, they were inconsiderate.

Motive doesn't mean much. All that matters is the result.

Are the parents also sueing those who cirulated the video? What about the hosting companies? What about those who actually laughed?

Distributors - This is too difficult to do, given that no-one could find them. Also, for all the distributors knew, this could have been uploaded with the permission of the kid.
Hosting Companies - Hosting Companies should not be held responsible for the data they carry (They are not "Common Carriers", but they should be).
People who Actually laughed - If they laughed in his face, then yes, I would support those lawsuits.

The revenge mentality isn't "life" someone is setting out to ruin them and inflict harm.

So? Revenge is a part of life. It happens while you are alive. While you are alive, you may be victim of revenge. Life's not fair.

If the kid had grabbed a rifle and killed them all, I assume you'd still defend him, since it was all their fault?

Killing is a bit extreme. Maybe just a few broken bones...

I assume you agree with the Columbine kids, since they were picked on, you see their actions as justified?

Depends. Did the columbine kids target only those who picked on them?

But death is so harsh, maybe he should just paralyze them, would that be good enough payback for you?

Yes.

You feel sympathy for the kid, that's fine. He should be helped. Revenge isn't help. I think you're over identifying and ascribing evil motives to the kids who thought it was funny. I'd wager he himself chuckled at it before it was released.

I'm not ascribing evil motives, since the motive doesn't matter to me.

The video isn't responsible for his condition, the mocking he received is. He's sueing the wrong folks then, he should be going after the 1000's of people that walked up to him laughing and pointing! (Which, I doubt existed except in his own mind. Most likely it was a few people that knew him since most people probably promptly forgot the face of teh kid after the video finished)

The video is responsible for the Mocking. He should go after both.

 

[Wormwood]

But death is so harsh, maybe he should just paralyze them, would that be good enough payback for you?
Yes.

Wow.

I mean....Wow.

Okay, I'm outta here until someone forces Sixchan back on his meds.

 

[Sixchan]

Wow.

I mean....Wow.

Okay, I'm outta here until someone forces Sixchan back on his meds.

Bah. I just believe in ridding society of rogue elements, is all.