[OT] The Secrets of Dating, or How to Get the Girl!

[jester47]

As always, off-topic posts are subject to closure without much (if any) warning. Please keep all conversation in this thread tasteful. (I've already discovered I needed to add another word to the profanity filter, thankyouverymuch).

Sorry about that eric, I thought doing it that way might have been acceptable.

Here is a handy key if you want to filter out every possible way the !@#$%^&*() keys that might be used to slip in a naughty word.

# = f, h, tt
+ = t
@ = a
$ = s
! = i
& = b
( = c
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[takyris]

Originally posted by Angcuru ...I can't count the times when I've met a drop-dead gorgeous girl and she turned out to be a (deleted) dumb (deleted). While not all attractive girls are (deleted), a LOT are.

I was offended by your choice of words up there. And, given the tact and courtesy with which you stated your opinions, I am somewhat less than shocked at the fact that this is the sort of world you see yourself as living in. You get what you give.

As for your logic, the "all the good-looking girls are total ____" line is too easy, too stupid, and too often wrong. Trying to give yourself a rhetorical back door with "not all of the good-looking girls are like this -- just a lot of them" is a cheap attempt to avoid taking responsibility for the wrongheaded ideas you're putting out there.

-Tacky

 

[Luddite]

The Luddite on Dating :

When growing up, my mother said I could not date till I was 35. Now that I am 35, my wife won't let me date.

-The Luddite

 

[Teflon Billy]

It's not about being aggressive, it's about being available as someone else put it...(and I mean this to be purely metaphorical, so get your minds out of the gutter!)...You can't score if you aren't playing in the game.

I don't know. I and most of my friends have done "just fine" to "very well" being arrogant jerks.

In highschool I tried to go with the plan my mother had for me "Be nice, be respectful, think of the girl as a person first". It sounded like gold! I mean who wouldn't like politeness and respect? Right?

I got exactly nowhere. The girls absolutely could not have cared less.

Then my friend Cary, who did very well with women, took me aside while I was complaining one day and told me the truth...

"Treat them bad. Just kind of be arrogant, don't be afraid to belittle them some etc.."

I told him he was crazy.

He said to try it on a girl I liked (Michelle) at a party this weekend. If it didn't work, he'd give me 50 dollars...if it did I owed him 50.

I paid him 50 bucks monday morning. michelle and I dated for almost year.

The pattern hasn't really changed all that much. I'm not the total jerk that I was in highschool, because I don't need to be anymore.

I now make pretty good money, which picks up a lot of the slack

Your mileage may vary

 

[Angcuru]

I was offended by your choice of words up there. And, given the tact and courtesy with which you stated your opinions, I am somewhat less than shocked at the fact that this is the sort of world you see yourself as living in. You get what you give.

Actually, I treat everyone cordially the first encounter, and judge them from that point on. I only give as good as I get. If I get treated well, they get treaded well, and vice versa.

As for your logic, the "all the good-looking girls are total ____" line is too easy, too stupid, and too often wrong. Trying to give yourself a rhetorical back door with "not all of the good-looking girls are like this -- just a lot of them" is a cheap attempt to avoid taking responsibility for the wrongheaded ideas you're putting out there.

-Tacky

This is only taking into account my experience so far. For most of my life I've been treated as almost sub-human by my so-called 'peers', simply because I took the intellectual route instead of horsing around with the rest of the guys. I know this isn't something that I alone have experienced, and know it is not as rare as it should be. Like I said, I give as good as I get.

Currently I'm 17 year old high school senior from central-north New Jersey, and most of my experience relfects what I say. In my age group, a great deal of the physically attractive girls have been treated better than the rest, and a significant portion(I again say, NOT ALL) have let it go to their heads, developed superiority syndromes, and taken on the b*tch attitude, so to speak. The other portion of these attractive girls have not let their treatment go to their heads and are very nice people. They are quite numerous, but are still outnumbered by their less-than polite counterparts.

I take offense to you trying to portray me as an insecure woman-hater who takes the actions of the few to reflect the actions of the many. You come off as "higher-than-thou", and that doesn't help your argument.

 

[Ankh-Morpork Guard]

I think a big problem with a lot of things is our society these days focusess so heavily on appearance and physical attractivness. I was never really one to believe that everything was that important. I never actually saw a picture of my girlfriend until 2 years ago...we'd known each other for 4 years by then. I had already fallen hard for her, and it really didn't MATTER what she looked like. I already KNEW her and to let her physical appearance just counteract everything is just stupid....*cough* Though she doesn't look bad at all.(Have to throw that in just in case she finds the board.)

 

[WizarDru]

This is only taking into account my experience so far. For most of my life I've been treated as almost sub-human by my so-called 'peers', simply because I took the intellectual route instead of horsing around with the rest of the guys. I know this isn't something that I alone have experienced, and know it is not as rare as it should be. Like I said, I give as good as I get.

The emphasis here is 'ONLY taking into account my experience so far'. Your statements emphasizes that you think ALL women, even all women just in your peer group mold to a certain pattern of behavior, and other people are telling you that your experience is not necessarilly representative of the whole. I think you need to consider the posiblity, correct or not, that you might be creating a self-fulfilling prophecy. You anticipate a certain treatment, and then engender it. Or they really could just be jerks. Wait till college, dude. You'll get your day.

In this case, your age does work against you here. Those of us who've been in commited relationships almost as long as you've been alive have a different perspective on this. You can choose not to agree, but don't expect us to necessarily agree.

 

[Silver Moon]

• Me: Your eyes are deep like a symphony of thousand galaxies, dancing to to tune of time and mystery.
  She: Gosh!
  Me: Do you believe in love at first sight, or do I have to walk by you again?
  She: Oh my!
  Me: I have bunny slippers!
  She: Er... I have to go now.

Of course, using metaphors from my Geeky lifestyle isn't helping.

• She: I mean, what am I supposed to do? Should I do it or not?
  Me: Do or do not, there is no try.
  She: But, if I do, she'll be hurt, I can't have that on my consciousness.
  Me: With great power comes great responsibility.
  She: Eh... uh... what?
  Me: It's just a question to boldly go where no one has gone before!
  She: You're weird.

• She: What do you mean I'm a mendicant?
  Me: No, not you, it's a joke, you see, there's this guy, Groo and...
  She: Groo this! *SLAP*

OK Viking, this will probably be my final attempt to help you remind everyone that this thread is a joke! Everyone, read the dialogue from the original post listed above. Does this really sound like someone who is taking this subject seriously?

 

[Teflon Billy]

My advice to Angcuru is a little different that most given here.

As this thread continues, people will continue to harp on the fact that "You are generalizing" and that "everyone is a different and special little snowflake".

Just remember that generalizations are how people discuss groups, and for them to imply that there is no way that you should be unable to spot a pattern (or patterns) in the behaviour of certain groups of people is hogwash.

No, your generalizations are not correct 100% of the time, but the reason they register in your mind is because they are right more often than they are wrong. I think you said as much.

The advice from Wizardru that you should "wait for College" is good. Once girls can legally drink--and feel that they have something to prove about what "free thinking libertines" they are now that they are away from parental supervision--the game becomes almost astonishingly easy

Hope things work out a better for you in the future.

 

[Teflon Billy]

Re: Re: [OT] The Secrets of Dating, or How to Get the Girl!

OK Viking, this will probably be my final attempt to help you remind everyone that this thread is a joke!..

Say it isn't so! keep fighting the good fight Silver

Or you could just assume the thread has mutated into a different discussion.