D&D 5E Other Strength-based / Constitution-based Skills?

DND_Reborn

Legend
I am tweaking the skill system a bit, and have the following skill set at present, which I am mostly happy with:

Strength (broken down Athletics, adding Lifting)
  • Climbing
  • Jumping
  • Lifting
Constitution
  • Endurance
  • Running
  • Swimming
Dexterity
  • Acrobatics
  • Sleight of Hand
  • Stealth
Intelligence
  • Insight
  • Investigation
  • Perception
Wisdom
  • Animal Handling
  • Healing (replaces Medicine as the practical skill instead of knowledge)
  • Survival
Charisma
  • Influence (combined Deception / Persuasion)
  • Intimidation
  • Performance

I would like to reconstitute Athletics (Climbing, Jumping, Swimming), but I would need another Strength-based skill (for Climbing and Jumping) and a replacement Constitution-based skill (for swimming).

For Strength I was thinking something like a Power-move-type skill, and Constitution maybe a "Resistance" skill (After all, "I spent the last few years building up an immunity to iocane powder.").

Any thoughts?

EDIT: UPDATED per suggestions:

Strength
  • Athletics (climb, jump, sprint, swim)
  • Brawn (lift, break, carry)
  • Grapple (grapple, shove instead of Athletics)
Constitution
  • Endurance
  • Running (sprinting is separate, so this might be redundant with Endurance...?)
  • Tolerance (vs. foreign contaminants such as alcohol, drugs, poison--might replace those CON saves?)
 
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Minigiant

Legend
Supporter
When I DM. Weight Lifting (Str) and Endurance (Con) are skills.

Weight Lifting is for pure strength based movement and lifting beyond your capacity.

Endurance is uses of stamina like long distance running and swimming.
 

DND_Reborn

Legend
When I DM. Weight Lifting (Str) and Endurance (Con) are skills.

Weight Lifting is for pure strength based movement and lifting beyond your capacity.

Endurance is uses of stamina like long distance running and swimming.
I agree, but I already have both of those. Do you have any ideas for other skills for Strength or Constitution?
 

Blue

Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal
For me, combining and splitting skills needs to serve one purpose before any other - to equalize how often the skill comes up in important situations.

If Athletics is coming up too much so we want to break out Lifting - we expect Lifting to come up in important/dangerous situations as much as Perception, then go for it. But that's not the experience in my campaign.

Making niche skills that are traps for whomever takes them just to arbitrarily balance the number of skills per ability score seems like a step in the direction away from playability.
 






DeviousQuail

Adventurer
Strength:
  • Athletics (swim, jump, climb)
  • Grapple (grapples, shoves)
  • Brawn (lift, carry, break objects, physical intimidation?)
Constitution:
  • Endurance (extended physical activity, hold breath)
  • Running (like walking but faster)
  • Tolerance like @Minigiant suggested (heat, cold, toxins, etc)
 

le Redoutable

I mean you no harm
Strength:
  • Athletics (swim, jump, climb)
  • Grapple (grapples, shoves)
  • Brawn (lift, carry, break objects, physical intimidation?)
Constitution:
  • Endurance (extended physical activity, hold breath)
  • Running (like walking but faster)
  • Tolerance like @Minigiant suggested (heat, cold, toxins, etc)
isn't your tolerance stat much like Life Support ?
 








That is a good idea, I could combine Endurance and Tolerance, but I am afraid it would become a must have skill for casters... :unsure:
Well, with more skills players will have to make choices on what to specialize in? But yeah, it's hard to make everything perfectly balanced. There will always be more optimal choices.
 

DND_Reborn

Legend
Well, with more skills players will have to make choices on what to specialize in? But yeah, it's hard to make everything perfectly balanced. There will always be more optimal choices.
Since I am separating Knowledge (areas) from Skills, most classes are getting an extra skill anyway.

I am also wondering if it would be most appropriate under Constitution, Wisdom, or Charisma in a "willpower" way...

I'll put it in the list to discuss with my group and we'll see what they think. We might be able to use it so thanks!
 

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