Pathfinder 1E Paizo no longer publishing Dungeon and Dragon

[Nightfall]

Not sure about that with Necromancer Games since now they can move stuff into other markets thanks to partnering with Paizo.

They may go elsewhere but even gamers need places to meet and that means game stores SINCE they are easier to be around and not feel like a stranger or a weirdo asking "Hey do you play D&D?" in a bookstore or online...

Danny,

Considering they already a) raised prices before and b) gamers objected...I think it's fair to say they need a way to stablize the cost some how...

That's why when they got popular they could cut cost.

Now with WotC cutting them out, hey they need money to stay solid.

 

[catsclaw227]

Are you sure you didn't actually mean to say disingenuous?

Yes. 12hour days at work suck!

 

[Shawn_Kehoe]

Shawn,

Then hope for the failure of WotC's endevour and it might yet occur!

Hmmmm... no, if this online product fails, I cannot see the print magazines returning. Erik and the Paizo folks talked about the millions of dollars it takes to sell a magazine to distributors ... once Dragon/Dungeon are gone and their shelf space has been filled, I would imagine that any attempt to return the magazines to newsstands would be as costly as creating a new magazine.

Nope, I'm gonna hope the online model succeeds. It might not be what I am comfortable with, but soon it will be all we've got. Other than Pathfinder.

Shawn

 

[Nightfall]

Shawn,

Eh. Suit yourself. Me I'm expecting failure and keeping with Paizo.

Cats,

I hear that my friend!

 

[Dannyalcatraz]

Considering they already a) raised prices before and b) gamers objected...I think it's fair to say they need a way to stablize the cost some how.

Objected? Probably.

But what about the sales figures? I can't speak for everyone, and I don't have the mag's stats, but I know that despite the price increases, I continued to renew my subscriptions with each price bump over the past 200 or so issues. In fact, I tended to go for longer subs to lock in my savings with the offered price breaks.

Actually, it was even price increases since my first issue (#44) that inspired me to get a subscription in the first place.

Admittedly, this isn't like the cancellation of Life in terms of cultural importance, but it will probably be viewed as such in terms of its subcultural importance.

 

[Shawn_Kehoe]

Not sure about that with Necromancer Games since now they can move stuff into other markets thanks to partnering with Paizo.

They may go elsewhere but even gamers need places to meet and that means game stores SINCE they are easier to be around and not feel like a stranger or a weirdo asking "Hey do you play D&D?" in a bookstore or online...

Honestly, I would suggest that Paizo is also in the "game store is key" market, with the very notable advantage of their online store.

I wouldn't know about the group recruitment issue - my group started with my friends in 1995, and we have just recruited other friends ever since. If they didn't know how to play, we taught 'em.

Shawn

 

[Ranger REG]

Nope, I'm gonna hope the online model succeeds. It might not be what I am comfortable with, but soon it will be all we've got. Other than Pathfinder.

Sorry, but I cannot hope for that. The only thing I'm hoping for is an EMP explosion at Renton.

 

[Nightfall]

Danny,

I agree it has cultural implications, but no idea about a subculture thing. Just..dunno man about the figures and such.

 

[Nightfall]

Shawn,

Not everyone is as sociable or gregarious as yourself. That's why FLGS are an important stable in gamers societies.

Ranger man,

See I was planning for more of a pickfork and torches deal. But that works too!

 

[Shawn_Kehoe]

Shawn,

Eh. Suit yourself. Me I'm expecting failure and keeping with Paizo.

Hey, history is on your side.

And I will also be supporting Paizo, which I hold with Green Ronin, Necromancer and Goodman as "D20 I Can Trust."

Shawn