Pathfinder 1E Paizo no longer publishing Dungeon and Dragon

[JoeGKushner]

How about since he apologised and the rest of us moved on, we don't go into "revisionist historian" mode...

Editing an offensive post is "revisionist" history?

 

[Ghendar]

Erik Mona is the publisher, overseeing the entire company's publishing efforts and managing the editorial staff.

With an iron hand?

j/k Erik. Looking forward to seeing Pathfinder.

 

[RFisher]

I'd been arguing for a while that Dragon & Dungeon should consider morphing at least partially into an online resource. While I can't say I've been happy about it, the magazine business has been in a steady decline & probably with good reason. The truth is--despite the large stacks of post-2000 Dragons sitting in my study--I long ago started getting most of what I used to get from the old Dragon online instead.

My feelings about Dungeon are complex, & I don't even want to go there...

Yet, this news hit me in the gut too. I fell into this melancholy all yesterday evening. My wife noticed it, but I couldn't tell her what was bothering me. It seems so trivial to say it aloud. I feel guilty over not being able to give 100% leading my son's cub scout den meeting last evening.

I guess I didn't really realize what an impact Dragon magazine had had on me. & I guess somehow knowing it was still around--even if it was so different from the magazine I loved--comforted me somehow. Maybe it was something about knowing that it was still valueable to a great many people even if I didn't count myself among them.

 

[Ghendar]

Punched in the gut is just the first stage of how many of us feel; upon hearing this announcement, we're all like a giraffe in quicksand.

Stage One: "This can't possibly be right. Seriously, the magazine's will be back before we know it. Right...heh.........

Stage Two: "Well this is just @#$%ing perfect! Stupid WotC! Stupid Hasbro! Mother @#$%! Mother @#$%! Mother @#$%!

Stage Three: "Dear God, please make WotC's online initiative fail so that they give the magazines back to Paizo, and I promise, I'll never, ever, fudge my ability score rolls again. Deal?"

Stage Four: "Waaaaaaaaaaahaaahaaahaaaaaagh!"

Stage Five: "I guess it's not the end of the world. Paizo is still going to be putting out great stuff <snip>."

Stage Six For me anyway. "Refuse to buy WotC's online content in protest of these cancellations."

 

[Mark Plemmons]

Another thought, too, which I got from Monte Cook, via OYT , was how a lot of those ads from Dragon will no longer have a venue.

Not just the regular gaming products, mind you, but also the quirky ones, too. Heck, Wolfgang Baur's Open Design project has even had an ad or two in those magazines.

That's something that's occurred to me, too. It's tough. Although.... hmmm.... I bet we'd be able to help Paizo out with any ad contracts that run past the last issue. We could just transfer the ad to the Knights of the Dinner Table comic and gaming magazine, so the advertisers don't lose their ads.

 

[Ghendar]

I think the only choice we have at this point is to give full support to this WotC e-zine.

Yeah, I'm supposed to support them for making a decision I don't agree with, right. <rolleyes>

What the f*** are you talking about?

 

[sckeener]

I still feel like a family member has died.

So many memories....#1 is I need to tell my mom. When I was a kid, she would buy me a subscription every year for Christmas. She stopped when I started subscribing to magazines on my own (namely Dungeon), but she knows how much the magazines mean to me. We were joking about them last year that she always bought me the best Christmas present when I was a kid...a subscription to Dragon.

 

[Xyanthon]

I just wanted to add my voice to the chorus of discontentment. I know I'm late to the party but I think this really sucks. I'll check out what PAizo is going to do but not having a regular general interest gaming magazine to fill the void is really going to suck. I guess I'll go ahead and subscribe to the Crusader. At least I'll be supporting gmaers who really love the game.

 

[Desdichado]

Why do I feel like I've been beaten and raped?

That's nothing; I feel like my firstborn kids have been kidnapped and murdered!

 

[DaveMage]

A couple of questions for Paizo:

1) Will we see special Order of the Stick comics in any of the new ventures, and

2) Why go OGL only instead of using the d20 license for products like "Pathfinder?"

Thanks!