Shawn_Kehoe
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Nightfall said:Shawn,
LMAO! That's sooo awesome!
Thanks.
No Problem!
Phoenix Wright is the only lawyer I trust - and everyone here who owns a Nintendo DS should try the Ace Attorney games.
Shawn
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Pathfinder 1E Paizo no longer publishing Dungeon and Dragon
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No Problem!
Phoenix Wright is the only lawyer I trust - and everyone here who owns a Nintendo DS should try the Ace Attorney games.
Shawn
Nightfall
Sage of the Scarred Lands
Mist,
Prove me wrong. I liked to see that. People also fear UNNECESSARY change. Like you know, going to war with people that we haven't declared war on but are fighting anyway...
Shawn,
That's probably a safe thing to trust.
Reynard,
Yeah we don't need no stinking logic!
Just Money angels!
Prove me wrong. I liked to see that. People also fear UNNECESSARY change. Like you know, going to war with people that we haven't declared war on but are fighting anyway...
Shawn,
That's probably a safe thing to trust.
Reynard,
Yeah we don't need no stinking logic!
Just Money angels! 
Cthulhudrew
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Reynard said:
It is illogical of you to suggest such a thing, sir.
Mistwell
Crusty Old Meatwad
Steel_Wind said:
It's not standard for licensing deals. It's standard for press releases over controversial mutual business decisions between existing joint venture partners.
If [Software Company] and [Technology Company] are severing a relationship and continuing licensing for a period of 6 months for transition purposes, you can be damn sure both agree that nobody says anything different from the other party for that period of time, and that is accomplished by each party approving the other parties press releases. Same thing happens if Company X is selling division Y to company Z, pending SEC approval. Or a host of other scenarios where a relationship continues pending a specific event (which is what happened here).
The agreement to extend the license beyond the termination date is in fact the beginning of a new agreement. And as part of the consideration for such an extension, it would be typical to require that both parties say the same thing about the deal in public, and sign mutual NDAs/Non-disclosures. It's really unusual to not do that in this kind of situation.
Mistwell
Crusty Old Meatwad
Thurbane said:Oh yes, they should have gagged Paizo...that would have made things much better...
Not gagged. They should have spoken with the same voice. Everyone should have been on the same page, with the same story, with even the same press release except for the "About This Company" tag at the end. That's how these things are usually done.
mhensley
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You know in every cloud there's a silver lining... for somebody. There's definitely some people who must be loving this- 3rd party D20 adventure publishers. Here's some of the winners in this-
Winners
Kenzerco- now the publisher of the only real remaining rpg magazine (KODT). I expect them to get a lot of new subscribers. Also, where else can anyone advertise their stuff now? They should make a killing on this. Bonus- they also publish D20 modules which should be more popular now that Dungeon is dead.
Goodman Games- the most successful module publisher should get a lot more business now that Dungeon isn't around to supply DM's with short adventures.
Necromancer Games- this just might be the shot in the arm that they need to stay around. Again no Dungeon means a lot less competition in the module market.
WOTC- they should see a short term (3-5yrs) increase in module sales by not having to compete with Dungeon. After that who knows what happens to the D&D market without the magazines to entice new players into the fold. This is a big gamble by them.
Losers
Paizo- no matter how you slice it, this sucks for them. The magazines were a cash cow and the official D&D stamp on everything gave them a serious advantage against other companies.
Us- the magazines were killed because they were superior in value to anything anyone else could produce. This costs us all more. Plus this might just be a mortal wound to the D&D game itself. Consider the very similar death of Strategy & Tactics magazine (ironically killed by TSR when they bought SPI) pretty much signaled the death knell for the wargaming hobby which it has never recovered from.
Winners
Kenzerco- now the publisher of the only real remaining rpg magazine (KODT). I expect them to get a lot of new subscribers. Also, where else can anyone advertise their stuff now? They should make a killing on this. Bonus- they also publish D20 modules which should be more popular now that Dungeon is dead.
Goodman Games- the most successful module publisher should get a lot more business now that Dungeon isn't around to supply DM's with short adventures.
Necromancer Games- this just might be the shot in the arm that they need to stay around. Again no Dungeon means a lot less competition in the module market.
WOTC- they should see a short term (3-5yrs) increase in module sales by not having to compete with Dungeon. After that who knows what happens to the D&D market without the magazines to entice new players into the fold. This is a big gamble by them.
Losers
Paizo- no matter how you slice it, this sucks for them. The magazines were a cash cow and the official D&D stamp on everything gave them a serious advantage against other companies.
Us- the magazines were killed because they were superior in value to anything anyone else could produce. This costs us all more. Plus this might just be a mortal wound to the D&D game itself. Consider the very similar death of Strategy & Tactics magazine (ironically killed by TSR when they bought SPI) pretty much signaled the death knell for the wargaming hobby which it has never recovered from.
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