Pathfinder 2E Pathfinder 2E Errata

The Pathfinder 2 developers were in a Twitch stream, where they confirmed some errata for the core rules. Thanks to @Markh3rd for the scoop!

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  • Humans are supposed to have one more language (Common + Bonus + INT).
  • Your proficiency in simple weapons is also what your proficiency in unarmed should be, including the wizard. Monk is an exception as they are better at unarmed.
  • Ki spells cue off Wisdom for the monk.
  • Sorcerer is missing a 17th level Resolve class feature, just the same as the wizard's (includes master will save, critical success, etc.).
  • Wizards don't get a 1st level class feat by default. This was a mistake. They only get one for being a universalist.
  • The adventurer's pack is only 1 bulk.
  • Heroic Recovery takes you to 0 hit points, not 1.
Link to the stream: Twitch

The developers said they will be releasing official critical errata soon as well as monster creation rules (so we will have them before the GameMastery Guide comes out).
 

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kenada

Legend
Supporter
Just out of curiosity, what was Paizo's old errata policy?
They published errata when they did a new print run. Most (all?) of their hard cover releases got second (or more) printings; but, other than Adventurer’s Armory, nothing else did, so those books tended to stay broken.
 

R_J_K75

Legend
I didn't buy PF2, but errata IMO is just careless and unacceptable. It shows poor quality control and management. These mistakes and omissions should be caught before the first printing, not after. This goes for any RPG or book in general. Most every word processor has spell check so even typos should be few and far between, if any. I always feel cheated when I buy a first printing and then 3 pages of errata comes out a month later. You either have to use your book as is with the printed errata or buy the revised printing. I understand that the game evolves or some rules are broken and need to be fixed, and should be. Incidents where things were left out or sentences need to be re-worded because of poor writing and proof reading simply should not happen and their staff should be held accountable. Ive never given it much thought but Id be curious to see if the incidents of errata decrease over the lifespan of an edition, for instance PF1 or D&D 3E.
 

CapnZapp

Legend
I didn't buy PF2, but errata IMO is just careless and unacceptable.
Sorry to have to break it to you, but I've been gaming for thirty years and I can't think of a single game that didn't need errata.

Every. Single. Game. on my shelves have errata issued or should have.

So while I do sympathize with your sentiment I'm afraid your stance is utterly alien to how the world actually works.

Other than that I wish you a good morning. Regards
 

kunadam

Adventurer
Every. Single. Game. on my shelves have errata issued or should have.
It is probably true for any kind of published stuff. No matter how many times you go through a 600 odd page manuscript, something will be left is, or put there during editing, or someone just insert the wrong figure/chart/etc. Of course in a perfect world such thing never happen.
 

R_J_K75

Legend
Sorry to have to break it to you, but I've been gaming for thirty years and I can't think of a single game that didn't need errata.

Every. Single. Game. on my shelves have errata issued or should have.

So while I do sympathize with your sentiment I'm afraid your stance is utterly alien to how the world actually works.

Other than that I wish you a good morning. Regards

My stance is not alien to how the world works. I work in manufacturing and if the company I work for sells a customer a product that doesnt work as was promised, we fix it or replace it at the companies cost. They dont haphazardly add on some ancillary component to fix the issue. If I go to a restaurant and my order is wrong it gets sent back and I get the correct order.

The TTRPG industry is giving you 3 options, use your book as is, print out the errata and implement it into your game, or re-purchase the book when the new printing comes out. This business model is pretty foreign to how the rest of the world works, one they get away with because most people just accept it as to be expected. Ive often wondered if it was done purposely to sell more product.
 

CapnZapp

Legend
It is probably true for any kind of published stuff. No matter how many times you go through a 600 odd page manuscript, something will be left is, or put there during editing, or someone just insert the wrong figure/chart/etc. Of course in a perfect world such thing never happen.
My point is that expecting "no errata" is perfectly reasonable for a book.

Not for a role-playing game.

Don't get me wrong - you're absolutely free to hold such an expectation. I just think you will never find a game worth purchasing.

At least not unless you wait 2+ years after release. And even then only for those rare games that are successful enough to be reprinted.
 

CapnZapp

Legend
My stance is not alien to how the world works. I work in manufacturing and if the company I work for sells a customer a product that doesnt work as was promised, we fix it or replace it at the companies cost. They dont haphazardly add on some ancillary component to fix the issue. If I go to a restaurant and my order is wrong it gets sent back and I get the correct order.

The TTRPG industry is giving you 3 options, use your book as is, print out the errata and implement it into your game, or re-purchase the book when the new printing comes out. This business model is pretty foreign to how the rest of the world works, one they get away with because most people just accept it as to be expected. Ive often wondered if it was done purposely to sell more product.
Okay.

Still doesn't change my advice to you:

Either lower your expectations, or be prepared for disappointment. (Or switch hobbies, I guess)

Again, have a nice day.
 

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