Pathfinder 1E Pathfinder Adventure Path: How Successful?

[Dannager]

Humm saying things about the pathfinder fighter that would get you banned here is ok criticism I take it.

I'm not sure where this came from. I'm not even sure what you could say about the Pathfinder fighter that would deserve a ban here. It's not a person, so it's not like you're making personal attacks. The only thing I can see possibly being an issue is the more adult language allowed on RPG.net, which doesn't say anything about the individual posters.

 

[Hunter In Darkness]

Yeah it was the language and the over all considering tone about who would play such a thing. The thread got bad fast, and it did involve dog piling, even a guys saying ok you play your game I'll play mine got him dog piled

Just because you dont see the stuff does not mean it does not happen. You had a good experance , which is cool am glad ya did have a good one. But just because you never been on the other side does not mean it never happens

 

[Hunter In Darkness]

Oh and also wanted to say while not a 4e fan I am a gamer. So wanted to think you for doing the 4e conversions. Many people seem to like them and really that's why we all game, so well done sir

 

[Dannager]

Oh and also wanted to say while not a 4e fan I am a gamer. So wanted to think you for doing the 4e conversions. Many people seem to like them and really that's why we all game, so well done sir

Thank you.

I'm sorry you've had negative experiences. Hopefully that will turn around.

 

[Hunter In Darkness]

Your most welcome. Anyone that helps out fellow gamers in such a way helps the hobby as a whole.

 

[Dice4Hire]

Thanks for replying.

I didn't think anybody would have answered such questions.

Hopefully the present management has the wisdom to maintain a good thing, without degenerating into the corporate greed, incompetence, and corruption reminiscent of post-1985 TSR.

Is there any chance you can not send every post down this path?

 

[Keefe the Thief]

I can't speak to rpg.net, but you've been lucky to avoid the 4vengers on the WotC boards then. They act like it's a personal quest to trash anyone who finds anything about 4e that isn't perfect, even to the point of going after 4e fans. I don't see that sort of quasi-organized zealotry anywhere else online (even Razz as an army of one didn't get that bad, and he was banned on Paizo, among other places), but it makes for a genuinely unpleasant environment.

Just try to say that you like 4e on the FR boards over at Wizards. That goes both ways, i´m afraid.

 

[Betote]

If I perceived the AP's to be 4e-friendly, I would reconsider my decision to not buy them. Right now, based on their fan-base, I am not interested in them because I assume the products are not 4e-friendly.

What exactly makes Paizo's modules 4e-unfriendly? Their fun or their awesomeness?

 

[Mustrum_Ridcully]

What exactly makes Paizo's modules 4e-unfriendly? Their fun or their awesomeness?

Technically, the assumptions on encounter setup. 4E just needs more space and more monsters.

But I think Mistwell clarified what he meant later.

 

[billd91]

Honestly, the fact that you felt the need to respond as you responded kinda proves my point. Nobody mentioned hate. But you took it as an accusation, felt the need to go on the defensive, and bashed 4e fans and WOTC. Paizo fans seem to react like you reacted on a disproportionate basis. It's definitely not all of them, but it's too many of them for my tastes. It creates an inherent barrier to buying the game products.

Well, you were the one who generalized Paizo's fans (and still are doing so) as disproportionately anti-4e and damaging to Paizo's rep. If that's not somehow accusatory or at the very least negative, I'm not seeing it.

There's a lot of bias in the way people have seen various environments around the edition debate. Shemeska and Hunter in Darkness see bad pro-4e behavior on WotC, Dannager doesn't... but then, he's pro 4e and not likely to be the same kind of target. Dannager and you see it at Paizo, but there it's Dannager's edition that falls under the criticism, and others see bad pro-4e behavior there too that Dannager doesn't see. People have left ENWorld because of a perceived pro-4e bias in moderation. The list goes on.

Everybody making claims about the environment are generally seeing things through a lens of their own edition being the victim, of their fellow edition fans as being generally reasonable, the other game's fans not. And I think, because of confirmation bias, people particularly tend to miss when their own favorite game's fans are being unreasonable.