Permanent Arcane Sight... help with rulings plz...

[Thanee]

This spell makes your eyes glow blue and allows you to see magical auras within 120 feet of you. The effect is similar to that of a detect magic spell, but arcane sight does not require concentration and discerns aura location and power more quickly.

Note, that Arcane Sight does not require concenctration, discerning the school is part of the effect as per the Dispel Magic description. IMC this is done automatically, no action or effort required.

You know the location and power of all magical auras within your sight.

Otherwise, Arcane Sight is limited to your own sight radius, as you said, but it does make the magical auras visible for you, since it allows you to see them.

It's not hard to guess, that someone or something invisible must be approaching, if you see a bunch of magical auras closing in, where you cannot see anything else.

Bye
Thanee

 

[schnee]

Ok, let me rephrase that. I think Arcane Sight detects auras, as long as they are note physically hidden.

Yeah, true. I wasn't trying to nitpick your previous post... just wanted to clarify that one specific thing that I found when I re-read the 'cover' section more closely.

Arcane Sight works only to 120' or the limits of your sight

I have a hard time believing a new form of perception that has nothing to do with visible light is limited by visible light. I would argue sight in that instance means 'line of sight' like most magical effects.

It is stated nowhere that auras etc. glow like beacons/torches/lightsources once they come into Arcanes Sight's range.

Not 'glowing' in the sense of '-40 to Hide' like Glitterdust, but obvious and easily perceptible as things in and of themselves. I wouldn't say they cast light like a unicorn in some new-agey airbrush painting, but... tinted deep blue?... surrounded by an amber haze?... sure, why not.

 

[Saeviomagy]

Just a question:

IS arcane sight blocked by the same things that block detect magic? That's a specific line in detect magic, and arcane sight doesn't actually draw from detect magic.

It refers to detect magic only for aura powers.

There's no other ruleing specified in the general section on divinations.

Seems to me like only lead blocks arcane sight.

 

[Hypersmurf]

IS arcane sight blocked by the same things that block detect magic?

Seems to me like only lead blocks arcane sight.

Seems to me like anything that blocks line of sight blocks arcane sight.

You can detect an aura on the other side of a wooden door with detect magic, but it's not a 'magical aura within your sight', so you can't see it with arcane sight...

-Hyp.

 

[Thanee]

Yep, it works different. Detect Magic grants a non-visual sense, while Arcane Sight gives a visual sense.

Bye
Thanee

 

[Hypersmurf]

Yep, it works different. Detect Magic grants a non-visual sense, while Arcane Sight gives a visual sense.

I have a vague recollection of being convinced that the T&B version of Arcane Sight could detect auras through the same materials as Detect Magic, except that determining school required line of sight.

But I'm away from my books, and I could be misremembering.

But the 3.5 PHB version looks pretty unambiguous.

-Hyp.

 

[Thanee]

Seems pretty much the same text. Also "within sight".

Bye
Thanee

 

[Hypersmurf]

Seems pretty much the same text. Also "within sight".

Okay.

Maybe it was just ascribing too much scope to the 'similar to detect magic' clause.

-Hyp.

 

[Saeviomagy]

Seems to me like anything that blocks line of sight blocks arcane sight.

You can detect an aura on the other side of a wooden door with detect magic, but it's not a 'magical aura within your sight', so you can't see it with arcane sight...

-Hyp.

Interesting. The paragraph goes:
"You know the location and power of all magical auras within your sight. An aura’s power depends on a spell’s functioning level or an item’s caster level, as noted in the description of the detect magic spell. If the items or creatures bearing the auras are in line of sight, you can make Spellcraft skill checks to determine the school of magic involved in each. (Make one check per aura; DC 15 + spell level, or 15 + one-half caster level for a nonspell effect.)"

Interesting that they have a clause for whether the creatures bearing the auras ARE within your sight. It seems to suggest that some other scenario would be possible.

 

[Saeviomagy]

Of course the first line of the spell says "This spell makes your eyes glow blue and allows you to see magical auras within 120 feet of you."

It then says "You know the location and power of all magical auras within your sight."

Either
a) You can detect all auras within 120 feet, but don't get location and power

b) The spell lets you see them, therefore all auras within 120 feet are within your sight, and you know location and power.