Personalities in the Gaming Industry and Politics

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BelenUmeria said:
But using degree to measure education is not a real sign of someone's knowledge. A dumb person can pay their way through college.
You're the first person here to mention using degrees to measure education. In an earlier post, in fact, I removed the phrase "whether formal or informal" because I believed it to be unnecessary. (As a member of the California bar, I am very well aware that real education and number of frames on one's wall aren't congruent. Correlated, maybe. At best. One of the most well-read, well-informed, and reasonable people I've ever known is a friend of mine who didn't finish high school.)

I was apparently wrong.
 
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That whole "I'll never have all the facts" thing really speaks to me. I get very suspicious of anyone who claims to have all of the answers...
 

EricNoah said:
That whole "I'll never have all the facts" thing really speaks to me. I get very suspicious of anyone who claims to have all of the answers...
Just because one can't have all of the answers doesn't mean there's not value in (1) having more, and (2) looking for more. Right?
 

DocMoriartty said:
Give me 15 minutes and the internet and I can find "facts/data/statistics/evidence" to support any arguement from any side.

But given the internet's lack of authority control and the likelihood that you'd be cherry picking information doesn't do much to help your argument, assuming your opponent in the argument has any skill or knowledge at forming a good position. The proof of the pudding comes when you can back up an argument based on a wider variety of valid data from reputable sources.
That's why some opinions really have more weight than others.
 

EricNoah said:
That whole "I'll never have all the facts" thing really speaks to me. I get very suspicious of anyone who claims to have all of the answers...

What I don't like about that it that it can lead to "nobody can know anything and therefore I'm free to ignore your arguement". There is such a thing as an objective truth.
 

BiggusGeekus said:
What I don't like about that it that it can lead to "nobody can know anything and therefore I'm free to ignore your arguement". There is such a thing as an objective truth.

OMG! This is the most fun thread ever!

After weaving through the minefields of politics and religion, we're about to enter a philosophical debate on the merits of moral and aesthetic relativism!

...and to think I only came to the boards a few minutes ago to look for tidbidts about DMGII...
 

nothing to see here said:
OMG! This is the most fun thread ever!

After weaving through the minefields of politics and religion, we're about to enter a philosophical debate on the merits of moral and aesthetic relativism!

...and to think I only came to the boards a few minutes ago to look for tidbidts about DMGII...
Yes, but when we're done, although some of us may claim that "nothing is knowable," we'll still all of us leave through the door.

(Holy crap. Actually we won't! Wait until I get to Hell and tell Hume he was wrong!)

Before I get back to doing what I should be doing, I want to pose a question relevant to my argument for the correlation between education and value of opinion: how many folks skip the postings of some people here at EN World, but go out of their way to read the postings of others ... because they know that the former will be disorganized, rife with spelling and grammatical errors, and difficult to read or understand, while the latter will be just the opposite?
 
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Jeff Wilder said:
Just because one can't have all of the answers doesn't mean there's not value in (1) having more, and (2) looking for more. Right?

*sigh* I guess.

Man, and I almost had an excuse to just stop caring! :D
 

EricNoah said:
Furthermore, my hypothesis is that people make up their minds first, then find facts (if necessary) later, to reinforce their world view.

Did you read the articles I provided a link to earlier in the thread? That's exactly what some MRI scans of people's brains while they make moral decisions is showing.

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Now... should a person decide that they ARE going to try to engage "all" the facts/evidence they can find, and allow their mind to be changed if necessary ... is the more educated person going to be better equipped?

I would agree that there is a bare minimum of education need to be able to learn more. Basically, you need to be able to read and know the basics.
 

Jeff Wilder said:
You're the first person here to mention using degrees to measure education. In an earlier post, in fact, I removed the phrase "whether formal or informal" because I believed it to be unnecessary.
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I was apparently wrong.

In the common usage, "education" normally mean "formal education". But I still don't see a strong correlation even with informal education. There are plenty of people who research and learn only to support what they already believe. Without the added element of wanting to challenge your own opinions, I still claim that education does not lead to open mindedness.
 

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