Planescape at D&D eXperience

[Henrix]

FWIW, I wrote Planes of Law and Planes of Chaos before I wrote Demonweb Pits, so .... It's as much a Planescape book as I could make it.

Ah, the book just went from "we'll see" to "want it now"!

 

[Ambrus]

The Styx Oarsman looks like its second floor is built out of a ship's hull. As far as I knew the Black Sails tavern was the Lower Ward bar built out of a ship's hull.

 

[Piratecat]

FWIW, I wrote Planes of Law and Planes of Chaos before I wrote Demonweb Pits, so .... It's as much a Planescape book as I could make it.

Marry me, you fool.

Oh wait, I'm already married. And not gay.

But still. . .

Yeah. This just went from "not buying" to "top of the list."

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

The Styx Oarsman looks like its second floor is built out of a ship's hull. As far as I knew the Black Sails tavern was the Lower Ward bar built out of a ship's hull.

Sigil's a big city. Limiting bars built from ship's hulls to one bar seems a little excessive.

If it bothers you, switch it to the Black Sails or have the Black Sails change names under new ownership.

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hey Monkey King!

Good eye. And this is the first I've seen of the art.

FWIW, I wrote Planes of Law and Planes of Chaos before I wrote Demonweb Pits, so .... It's as much a Planescape book as I could make it.

I have to ask, why is the Expedition to the Demonweb Pits for 9-12 levels? I know all about the original (1E) adventure (I own that), but calling on nostalgia for the level spread doesn't make one pick of sense!

A quick glance over Fienish Codex I: Hordes of the Abyss suggests that all the primary NPCs hover around the 20th-level mark. Obviously Lolth (as an adversary) is out of the question. Therefore is this "Expedition to the Demonweb Pits...on a day when Lolth and the hired help are called away on business elsewhere"...?

 

[Ripzerai]

There's a lot more to do in the Abyss than kill demon princes, Krust.

Expedition to the Demonweb Pits is not in any sense a remake of Q1. It's an entirely new adventure. See the Paizo thread.

 

[RainOfSteel]

The Styx Oarsman looks like its second floor is built out of a ship's hull. As far as I knew the Black Sails tavern was the Lower Ward bar built out of a ship's hull.

Success breeds immitation.

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Now I have to find money to buy this book. Oh, wait, that isn't a bad thing. Is it?

 

[Upper_Krust]

Hey Rip!

There's a lot more to do in the Abyss than kill demon princes, Krust.

Don't go gettin' all Planescape at me mate...and you know full well what you (or at least WotC) and I consider Demon Princes are two different things.

But (thankfully) thats not the issue here, I never for one minute suspected we would see such an adventure. Even though the current rules suggest you can dethrone any Demon Prince with a party of four 20th-level characters.

Expedition to the Demonweb Pits is not in any sense a remake of Q1. It's an entirely new adventure.

You couldn't remake Q1 with 3rd Edition because the disparity between Lolth's stats and those of everything else on the layer (according to FCI) is far too great. Either Lolth would just lay the smackdown, or everything else up until the confrontation with Lolth would be an irrelevance.

See the Paizo thread.

Thanks for the link. Everything Wolfgang says (regarding the adventure) interests me: new monsters, lots of tactical engagements. But even looking past my prediliction for high and/or epic-level material, I just can't wrap my head around juxtaposing the terms "Demonweb Pits" and "Levels 9-12".

I have no doubt Wolfgang will concoct a good adventure but I am just puzzled that an adventure centred around (or at least certainly marketed around) the Demonweb Pits is not actually going to feature a single notable NPC of said Demonweb Pits!

 

[Ripzerai]

I have no doubt Wolfgang will concoct a good adventure but I am just puzzled that an adventure centred around (or at least certainly marketed around) the Demonweb Pits is not actually going to feature a single notable NPC of said Demonweb Pits!

Your post seems a little bit like someone saying they can't wrap their heads around the idea of a Forgotten Realms adventure that's not about killing Elminster. Sure, that'd probably be an insanely great adventure, but it's not the only adventure the world has to offer.

I'm sure there will be many notable NPCs. Just as there are notable NPCs in (for example) the Forgotten Realms settings other than Elminster, there are notable NPCs in the Demonweb Pits other than Lolth and her chief henchbeings.

I wouldn't assume Lolth herself isn't involved, either. Just because it's not centered around trying to kill her (or her top lieutenants), doesn't mean she's not a feature.

And, of course, I know nothing about this other than what I've seen in the previews. For all I know, there is an opportunity to make Lolth die in it, maybe by helping Graz'zt get an artifact that'll do the job, or maybe by finding a vial of god-eating Abyssal bacteria that will devour her from the inside out.

the current rules suggest you can dethrone any Demon Prince with a party of four 20th-level characters

Those aren't the current rules. Those were last year's rules. As of the Fiendish Codex II, we can assume all Fiendish Codex stats are mere aspects of their true forms.

But it's possible that the adventure was written for middle-level characters to avoid that whole issue.

 

[Aaron L]

Well, this is cool While I'm personally not a fan of Planescape, I know a lot of people are, and I'm glad they're putting something out for you guys to enjoy