[Planescape] Squaring the Circle Redux - OOC (Full)

[Sephiroth no Miko]

Sephiroth, Serpenteye, I may have an rather unusual solution for your ghost situation. I've written a prestige class called The Song Ghost, in which a bard literally bonds with a spirit in order to help it complete the task that held it to life. However, for Serpenteye's character, you could turn this PrC on its head. Make the Song Ghost your cohort, and perhaps select an elf or similarly long-lived race so that you can say you've been around for a while. Just a suggestion.

Thanks for the suggestion, Isida, and I would have to say I think the Song Ghost is a neat, neat prestige class (esp. since I'm playing one ) but I think it would require too extensive of a re-working (even turning it on its head) to fit what Serpenteye has in mind for his character.

 

[Sephiroth no Miko]

Ehr, Sepenteye, I currently have a bit of an issue with how you've distributed your character's ability points. If your elven rogue character was still alive, he'd have an Con score of... 6? Don't you think that's rather low!?

As I've said before, please don't make Con a dump stat just because you've adopted the ghost template. He may be dead now, but he was alive once-- please give him a reasonable Con score. An 7th level rogue with 13 hit points is not plausible.

 

[Serpenteye]

I can't say I'm exactly thrilled with the way the 'Afterlife' is set up in PS, and it all seems so... I dunno, bleah (particularly the petitioners)... but unless I want to re-write the cosmology we're stuck with it.

The heavens and the hells seem almost equally like a punishment, what with the eternal servitude and all. Though I can't say I'm too fond of the conventional idea of a heaven either. Dante's version of paradise just creeps me out, I'd prefer to spend eternity in the first circle of hell.

Yeah, but two evils still don't make a right. Possessing unwilling evil people (or creatures) is no less evil than possessing willing good people. :\ We just might not feel as sorry for them....

Do you have BoVD? There's a whole set of rules in there for possession (it's also in Ghostwalk), which I guess we'll be needing for your character.

I suppose one could provoke a combat-situation to justify oneself, . Besides all good people sometimes commits evil acts, often with good reason. They just tend to balance their evil with other acts of good.

I have almost no books at all. Are the rules restricting possession somehow, compared to the MM entry under Ghost?

Ehr, no. On the other hand, there's very little a ghost needs really. It doesn't eat, drink, or breath. It cannot feel cold or hot. It's got a slew of undead immunities and great mobility. I guess you would primarily need protective items, and some utility items. Healing might be concern, since good clerics won't be able to heal you without memorizing inflict spells.

Protective items, items for teleportation and planes-walking, ability-enhancing items, ability-boosting tomes, anti-turning items, etc.

Oh, and I've got healing covered with Draining Touch.

Hmmm... why would you assume he'd be possessing them to carry it? Couldn't he simply persuade them to carry it of their own free will? It's not like he'd be asking them to carry something huge and unwieldly.

I guess I have trust-issues

Unfortunately, no. :\ Charisma seems to be a dump stat for most warriors, excepting paladins, for whom Divine Might is a nifty feat. But that also requires an ability to turn undead.

That's ok, I've got a pretty nice set of feats anyway.

--

Btw, I've posted my character in the RG. Let me know if there's some inaccuracies.

 

[Serpenteye]

Ehr, Sepenteye, I currently have a bit of an issue with how you've distributed your character's ability points. If your elven rogue character was still alive, he'd have an Con score of... 6? Don't you think that's rather low!?

As I've said before, please don't make Con a dump stat just because you've adopted the ghost template. He may be dead now, but he was alive once-- please give him a reasonable Con score. An 7th level rogue with 13 hit points is not plausible.

Ok, I forgot about that. is a 10 high enough after modification? That's the same as his Wis, and as expensive as his Int.
After re-counting the points I'll even make it 11 (13 -2) .

 

[Sephiroth no Miko]

I suppose one could provoke a combat-situation to justify oneself, . Besides all good people sometimes commits evil acts, often with good reason. They just tend to balance their evil with other acts of good.

Oh, I'm not saying you can't possess people ever; just that it would evil to usurp their lives. And no one's absolutely good or absolutely evil. Well, no one mortal anyway....

I have almost no books at all. Are the rules restricting possession somehow, compared to the MM entry under Ghost?

No, they just expand on it somewhat. It's about the same stuff as under the magic jar spell, but with some additional text on what affects the ghost and what affects the body its possessing, plus some clarifications. On a side note, be aware that it is a standard action to leave a body (does not provoke an AoO)-- the ghost appears in any square within 5 feet of the host of the ghost's choosing.

It's no big deal. It's more important that I have the books than you anyhow.

Ok, I forgot about that. is a 10 high enough after modification? That's the same as his Wis, and as expensive as his Int.
After re-counting the points I'll even make it 11 (13 -2).

That looks better. I'll go over your character more closely later.

 

[Sephiroth no Miko]

It's now later.

Okay, here are my comment's for Serpenteye's ghost character:
--Your Atk bonus should be +12 (5 base + 6 Dex + 1 weapon focus). His Full Atk should therefore be +10/+10.
--Even though incorporeal creatures always move silently, you will probably want an entry for that skill anyway because if you wind up possessing a body, for example, you would no longer be incorporeal and then the modifier will matter. Though if you have no ranks, I guess it will just be the host's Dex mod.
--Which plane was the elf from, originally?

Wow... that was short.

 

[Ferrix]

Okay... I've a couple different ideas for my character (sorry I'm really slow, very busy with work and now that's over and no internet at home).

1) Human Monk 2/Barbarian 5/Frenzied Berserker 5 (a character who focuses on overwhelming unarmed combat, the berserker aspect is more mitigated due to a high wisdom and good will saves from the monk)

2) Halfling Fighter 8/Cavalier 4 (a hardened and rough halfling originally from faerun, he's always been a bit gruff and has developed a reputation as a fierce but often underestimated warrior) (wish I could find a better mounted melee class for a halfling dog rider, outrider is more ranged focus)

3) An old human fighter (although I don't know how well this would work due to the lack of feats focusing on the mental aspects of the fighter), relies more on cunning and wisdom than brute force

4) Bladedancer, crouching tiger hidden dragon type ;-)

-Any suggestions?

 

[Thanee]

Np. But be aware that it won't work if the greater dispel magic is an area effect, nor will it work if your opponent simply casts dispel magic at you.

Yep, of course.

Plus it won't work on your holy greatsword. OTOH, it's handy if you need to hit something that has DR with a different AL component such as Law or Chaos. But that's pretty rare.

Yep, I mostly wanted it to make the sword good-aligned (or maybe chaos-aligned), and since that is already covered or doesn't even work...

Bye
Thanee

 

[Thanee]

Okay... I've a couple different ideas for my character (sorry I'm really slow, very busy with work and now that's over and no internet at home).

I was already wondering...

2) Halfling Fighter 8/Cavalier 4 (a hardened and rough halfling originally from faerun, he's always been a bit gruff and has developed a reputation as a fierce but often underestimated warrior) (wish I could find a better mounted melee class for a halfling dog rider, outrider is more ranged focus)

Missing Donner?

Bye
Thanee

 

[Thanee]

About the cooperative item crafting... I somehow doubt, that someone else can help with the caster level there, at least that doesn't make much sense to me.

And Serpenteye's magic item list must be the shortest I have ever seen at this level!

Bye
Thanee