Player/DM Issues: Please Help!

gfunk

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So, we had a bit of conflict in our weekly DND session last night, read on for details:

A group of PCs (four of us) walk into a crypt with two Scions of Kyuss (from Fiend Folio). They emanate a fear aura and two PCs failed their saves, became panicked, and ran away. There were two PCs remaining and we moved forward to engage in melee.

One of the PCs (me) had Knowledge (Religion) and I used the skill as a free action once I had moved up to the Scions of Kyuss. I rolled an 18 (after modifers) which should give me some "pertinent" information about undead creatures.

My DM told me something to the effect that, "You notice that they have worms crawling out their eye sockets and nose."

Anyway, to make a long story short we dispatched the Scions of Kyuss but not before they infected both PCs with the worms. We died in a matter of rounds as the worms ate our brains, reduced our Int to 0 and transformed us into Scions soon after.

So, here's my question: Shouldn't the successful Knowledge (Religion) roll given me something more pertinent than the above quote from our DM? Should he have said, "You know that these creatures can transform their victims into Scions very fast using the worms infesting their undead bodies." Since my PC is somewhat familar with undead, I know that you have 24 h before you are turned to spawn in most cases. So wouldn't this be an unusal and "pertinent" exception?

If that was said, I believe, I would have run away with the rest of my party or have used ranged weapons.

In the end, our DM relented and said that our Int scores both dropped to one before the party druid was able to make a successful Heal check to remove the worms.

However, I am torn. On one hand, I do think I was treated unfairly but on the other hand I do not want to lose the "you could die at any moment feel" from DND. Please note that my PC is an Outsider (Extraplanar) so cannot be brought back by any means at our disposal. So I will have to make a new PC otherwise.

I have had PCs die before and I always let them be raised and take the level loss b/c I don't want to bring in a new PC and screw up the story continuity (esp. if we're in the middle of an adventure). However, that is not possible in this case.

Thoughts?
 

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While it varies from Dm to Dm. I think I would have definately given you a a little more info than just worms and stuff. Especially since you rolled Knowledge Religion.
 

I agree you should have gotten something more pertinent than the worms comment. I don't necessarily feel, however, you should have gotten what you were looking for in your example.

In most instances, worship of Kyuss is very secretive. I think you should have received some information on the religion itself, and then possibly made a Know: Arcana for the particular information on the Scions -- I'm also not too comfortable with all undead knowledge falling into Know. Religion, though.


I think what you got was bunk -- you can SEE they have worms crawling all over them. But I don't think you should have gotten the information you were looking for about their particulars with a result of 18.
 

Mordane76 said:
I think what you got was bunk -- you can SEE they have worms crawling all over them. But I don't think you should have gotten the information you were looking for about their particulars with a result of 18.
Wow, my thoughts written before my eyes...

oh and if your intelligence drops to "one" what the difference...? You need a 3 to be playable.
 

Brother Shatterstone said:
Wow, my thoughts written before my eyes...

oh and if your intelligence drops to "one" what the difference...? You need a 3 to be playable.

Not necessarily, Feeblemind drops your Int and Cha to 1 and you can still play your PC in a limited way.
 



Ankh-Morpork Guard said:
The only problem I really see is that the info the DM gave you sounds more like a Spot check than Knowledge...
I'm not even sure if that was a Spot check.... It was more of a creature discription if you ask me.

A spot check would have been:

"You see a few of the worms fall from the creature and wiggle upon the floor"

Or words to that effect as I might be off a bit as I don't have the creature's discrpition in front of me.
 

Brother Shatterstone said:
I'm not even sure if that was a Spot check.... It was more of a creature discription if you ask me.

A spot check would have been:

"You see a few of the worms fall from the creature and wiggle upon the floor"

Or words to that effect as I might be off a bit as I don't have the creature's discrpition in front of me.
Well, to me at least, seeing "You notice..." just screams "spot". Since...well, Spot is seeing things and details and such...
 


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