Player's Guide to Fighters and Barbarians: Prestige Classes

A couple of comments:


There are so many prestige class books out there already... so many class books too... why more?

Because there is No Such Thing as "too many options." Plus, we wanted to demonstrate how to take cool concepts and fit them into the campaign setting. We also wanted to demonstrate how to take a look at the campaign setting and mine its cultures and history for cool prestige classes.


Yeah but, but, the ability to summon HURORS!

Um, re-read that, buddy. That is the ability to summon the blizzards that always surround the hurors, not summon the hurors themselves. The whitefur gains the cool ability to whip up cold winds around himself, making it tough to hit him with things like missile weapons, etc.


If I was more interested in the Scarred Lands I'd probably pick it up - I think it's a nice idea making setting specific splatbooks like that.

The cool thing about these books is that we include ideas and suggestions for using them in other campaigns, as well, making them a great resource (like the Relics and Rituals and Creature Collection books) for non-Scarred Lands campaigns.

My central design principle for these books was simple: I wanted to give an example, using the Scarred Lands, of how the PC classes are integral and absolutely central to the setting, not just in the "current play" sense, but also in its history. The fighters and rangers and clerics and wizards are powerful people - men and women with the ability to change the very course of history. The campaign setting should reflect this.

But the campaign setting should also help to shape where these classes develop and the lines along which they grow and spread. We did that for this book, as well, demonstrating how the fighting styles (and thus, likely Fighter feats, weapons and armor taken) were affected by the place that the fighter hails from.
 
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Doh! Sorry Joe! But still that WOULD be a cool ability! *imagines a dozen hurors come charging along* Okay maybe some other time huh Joe?

I will agree with the point raised there are a LOT of Prestige classes out there that made it a little much like "gee another Prestige class" However at least in the Scarred Lands I feel it's more "centered" and focused. Thus I can enjoy it more.
 



I like the sound of the Totem Warrior, he sounds badass. So do some of the others.

Oh, and Nightfall, to answer a question of yours about six months back which I never forgot but never did answer, I am not really dropping Scarred Lands as a setting to play it, I am just converiting it over to the system I do like.
 

Ironic

I think its funny that on the same boards you can find people enthused about a product full of class-book related things (prcs, feats, items, etc) and find at least as many nay-sayers.

Technik
 

Tech, just the way things go. For me I'm not always enthused about GENERAL class stuff as campaign specific class books.

Earth,

That's cool. I do hope you'll pick up my book first! ;)
 

Re: Prestige Classes

Outlaw said:
I've certainly become saturated on prestige classes and class splat books.

Actually, seeing through a hawk's eyes does sound cool and I think I once modified familiars to allow for that at higher levels. My problem with it is that I have yet to see companies publish that material properly (or at least what's proper in my opinion). It's one of many really cool powers that make the class in and of itself a power sink. If you allowed all the PrCs that even one company created, then there is little, if any, reason to remain with a base class.

Actually, I tried very carefully to leave a reason to stay with a base class with the classes I worked with on this book. The Mercenary of the hawk is very good at what he does but if you take him out of his element he could actually be considered worse than a pure fighter of equal level. The same could be said for quite a few of the Prestige classes in this book. They are far and away superior in what they do, but they aren't very good as a generalist.

Oh if anyone cares I did the Knight of the Oak, Knight of the Coventacle, Mercenaries of the Hawk and Whitefur; and a member of my gaming group pretty much did all the other prestige classes. Joe told us to be carefull in how we balanced the classes so as not to make any class that every fighter or barbarian would want to take.
 

Yeah, considering the minor lull in fantasy stuff after the release of Modern, this summer's gonna be a major strain on the ol' checking account. Maybe I should look into that 3rd morgage...;)
 

Raistlin Majere said:
Well... eh?

There are so many prestige class books out there already... so many class books too... why more?

You know what I want more of? UNIQUE stuff. Stuff like When the Sky Falls and Requiem For a God. Unearthed Arcana is going to be FULL of fresh crap.

Stuff that is fresh. Stuff you don't see often.

Hmm... as you tell, I like Malhavok Press stuff.

I think the general public LOVES PrC books, just as much as monstah books.
 

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