D&D (2024) Playtest: Is the Human Terrible?

[Leatherhead]

One thing that people are overlooking: The Old Vhuman is going to be nerfed because all of the PHB feats are likely going to be reworked into level restricted feats or otherwise brought in line.

 

[Stalker0]

One thing that people are overlooking: The Old Vhuman is going to be nerfed because all of the PHB feats are likely going to be reworked into level restricted feats or otherwise brought in line.

Oh its getting nerfed into the ground....because its going to be gone There will likely only be one human going forward.

 

[fluffybunbunkittens]

Human did lose a lot of appeal, because now you no longer need their starting feat like you did before. While still remaining one of the few races with the negative racial trait of not having darkvision.

That in no way makes them bad - they are still fine. It's not like they're Dragonborn or something. It's not bad to pick up two of Alert/Lucky/Magic Initiate/Tough/Musician + extra skill + start a day with inspiration.

 

[Blue]

Oh its getting nerfed into the ground....because its going to be gone There will likely only be one human going forward.

Everyone insists that this is the same edition and that it's not a half-edition shift, so the old human and vHuman are still in play as well as part of the edition.

Though I'm with you, that it's really a half edition shift and the PHB2014 options should no longer be available.

 

[Stalker0]

Everyone insists that this is the same edition and that it's not a half-edition shift, so the old human and vHuman are still in play as well as part of the edition.

Yes but in theory if you are using the old stuff....you should be using the old stuff. If you want to cherry pick X race from the original with Y feat from the new you might get into some problems.

 

[Shiroiken]

I don't understand this post. Was the 2014 human broken? How so?

It wasn't "broken" (a horribly overused word), but it was very much top tier. A large number of char-op builds utilized it to get the best feat without sacrificing an ASI. The most common feats I've seen taken are Polearm Master, Great Weapon Master, and Sharpshooter.

 

[Warpiglet-7]

It wasn't "broken" (a horribly overused word), but it was very much top tier. A large number of char-op builds utilized it to get the best feat without sacrificing an ASI. The most common feats I've seen taken are Polearm Master, Great Weapon Master, and Sharpshooter.

I was never a power house but love taking moderately armored with non-dwarf blade locks.

Yeah. Strength based! Or heavily armored for clerics. I have a heavily armored arcana cleric in a group now.

I will regret losing the ability to armor up if all of this sticks

 

[Blue]

Yes but in theory if you are using the old stuff....you should be using the old stuff. If you want to cherry pick X race from the original with Y feat from the new you might get into some problems.

If it's one edition, it's one edition. That's like saying "well if you use new stuff like the Centaur from MotM you can't use old sub classes like from Xanathar's or the PHB".

If you want things that are not compatible with another - that's a different edition. Which I think it is.

 

[Parmandur]

If it's one edition, it's one edition. That's like saying "well if you use new stuff like the Centaur from MotM you can't use old sub classes like from Xanathar's or the PHB".

If you want things that are not compatible with another - that's a different edition. Which I think it is.

The playtest so fat is focused on playing new bits with older material in the same character, let alone table.

Using old options likw Race or Class is fine. Old Feats might be a bridge too far...but those are a neglected variant rule in 2014 as it is.

 

[James Gasik]

It's compatible, but in the same way I can run an old MS/DOS game on my laptop as long as I have another program to get around the fact that DOS is no longer a thing.