D&D 5E Polearm Master + quarterstaff...+ shield?

[Stormonu]

I think on Polearm Mastery I'm going to reword it so you have to be using it two-handed to get the extra attack for d4.

Think I'm also going to add spear to the weapons Polearm Mastery works with. I mean, a spear is basically a short, more flexible pike.

 

[Warpiglet-7]

I never said club variations aren't dangerous. But if I have a choice of being poked with a stick or poked with a stick with a blade on the end? All other things being equal? I'll take the blunt one.

My point was that fighting with a quarterstaff is different than fighting with a stick.

But even that does not capture this.

sure you can get poked with the quarterstaff. No, it would not be pleasant.

but explain how you will also poke with the OTHER END while using one hand.

two handed this is expected as it would be with a spear or even a great axe.

let’s come at it another way. Why are we having this discussion? We don’t ask if we can swing a hand axe one handed. Because that is how that weapons was used!

 

[Warpiglet-7]

I think on Polearm Mastery I'm going to reword it so you have to be using it two-handed to get the extra attack for d4.

Think I'm also going to add spear to the weapons Polearm Mastery works with. I mean, a spear is basically a short, more flexible pike.

As you should. Glaives too would be dangerous Like a Dane axe if the butt end got swung around to poke and bludgeon. Spears as well.

but all use two hands.

 

[Bacon Bits]

I think on Polearm Mastery I'm going to reword it so you have to be using it two-handed to get the extra attack for d4.

Think I'm also going to add spear to the weapons Polearm Mastery works with. I mean, a spear is basically a short, more flexible pike.

Errata added spear to the list of weapons.

 

[ph0rk]

Think I'm also going to add spear to the weapons Polearm Mastery works with. I mean, a spear is basically a short, more flexible pike.

This was already errata'd to work.

 

[Oofta]

But even that does not capture this.

sure you can get poked with the quarterstaff. No, it would not be pleasant.

but explain how you will also poke with the OTHER END while using one hand.

two handed this is expected as it would be with a spear or even a great axe.

let’s come at it another way. Why are we having this discussion? We don’t ask if we can swing a hand axe one handed. Because that is how that weapons was used!

Yeah, twirling a 6 ft long stick in one hand and being effective in combat is part of what I have a problem envisioning. I'm okay with a fair amount of silliness in D&D, but a quarterstaff is not a baton.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

Try being stabbed with a dagger attached to a pole vs being poked with a broomstick. You tell me which one hurts worse.

For the second one I was just pointing out that they did not qualify as quarterstaves. I don't see how they're relevant to the conversation since if they're clubs they can't be used for PAM.

Finally, I never said crossbow expertise wasn't another stinker. Fortunately every player I've ever had agreed so it hasn't been an issue.

I fully accept that D&D is not realistic. Doesn't mean I don't want it to be reality adjacent and not have stupid visuals that make no sense whatsoever even in an action movie.

If you read my first post fully, you will notice that I also stated that it is borderline stupid... I also put the wooden end and the pointy end into context. I really have a problem if you only pick parts of the post and respond to them with an answer that was superfluous if you read the post as a whole.

 

[UngeheuerLich]

Yeah, twirling a 6 ft long stick in one hand and being effective in combat is part of what I have a problem envisioning. I'm okay with a fair amount of silliness in D&D, but a quarterstaff is not a baton.

You don´t need to twirl. You just attack a second time. Period. Extra attack doesn´t do anything different... except that the second attack is doing full damage instead of reduced one. Ok, I read the feat again and it indeed states that you use the opposite end... so the twirling is not just in your head as I initially thought.
Yeah, probably they should have either removed the "opposing end" part and just wrote "a blunt part" of your weapon or clarify, that the weapon needs to be held in two hands, when the attack with the opposing end is perfectly reasonable. Maybe make the "offhand" attack with the shield and you are good...

 

[UngeheuerLich]

Yeah, twirling a 6 ft long stick in one hand and being effective in combat is part of what I have a problem envisioning. I'm okay with a fair amount of silliness in D&D, but a quarterstaff is not a baton.

Look at the end. Minute 10:57. I know, it is called spear, but in his hand is indeed a quarterstaff.

 

[DND_Reborn]

I'm okay with a fair amount of silliness in D&D, but a quarterstaff is not a baton.

THAT is where you draw the line??? Huh.