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Possibly two Villains in Spider-Man 3


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Among the people I know who know even a little about Spiderman, Venom is one of the top characters. I wouldn't say villain thought because he really isn't a villain. He's the "lethal protector", a good guy willing to actually kill bad guys but who has this irrational hate for Spidey. Makes a more compelling story than a guy with extra arms.
 

Among the people I know who know even a little about Spiderman, Venom is one of the top characters. I wouldn't say villain thought because he really isn't a villain. He's the "lethal protector", a good guy willing to actually kill bad guys but who has this irrational hate for Spidey. Makes a more compelling story than a guy with extra arms.

"Lethal protector"? Yeah, turning Venom into a good guy really helped the character ;)



Brother Shatterstone said:
Do you have a link? :)

http://www.aintitcool.com/display.cgi?id=19705
But really, it's all over the net. Just google it. And seeing that Raimi is pretty much a "classic Spidey" fan himself, it should come pretty natural to him.
 

Umbran said:
And I don't think Batman villains are really any better than Spidey villains. Batman villains are, in general, psychopaths, just like Green Goblin. I don't think many can really identify with or truly empathize with that level of mental disturbance. Meanwhile, simple greed is something everyone has a handle upon.

Note - in the above, I call a marked difference between "empathy" and "symapthy". I dunno about even sympathizing with Batman villains, andy more than I'd sympathize with a tornado. :)

If nothing else, the animated versions of some Batman villains were sympathetic, especially Mister Freeze and the Mad Hatter. That said, anyone who finds sympathy for the Joker needs to get their head examined...

Personally, though, I think both Spidey's and the Bat's villains can't hold a candle to the Central City Rogues. ;)
 


Captain Tagon said:
Hey, it entertained all of us and made us care which I haven't done about SpiderMan since I was like 8.

Entertained? Yes, for a moment's worth. Cared? No, not really.

Let's just agree to disagree.
 

Flyspeck23 said:
"Lethal protector"? Yeah, turning Venom into a good guy really helped the character ;)

It’s done far more for him than any of Spiderman's other rogues have got going on... ;)

Flyspeck23 said:
And seeing that Raimi is pretty much a "classic Spidey" fan himself, it should come pretty natural to him.

The links didn't really help much, just random garbage or sites I would take with a big grain of salt. ;) I do agree with the Raimi being more into classic Spiderman.

Flyspeck23 said:
Let's just agree to disagree.

Of course. ;)
 

Flyspeck23 said:
Blame Eric Larson. He hated Venom too, and therefore "invented" the teeth-and-tongue-look.

Todd McFarlane created Venom's appearance, and he says it came about because he wasn't made aware that Venom was supposed to have a human inside the aliensuit. The look took.

One thing that always bothered me was that Venom's human host, Eddie Brock, just happened to be built like the hulk. The guy was just a photographer, so giving him the physique of a gold-medal weiightlifter doesn't really work in a movie like it would in comics (where herculean builds are accepted as the norm).
 
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Flyspeck23 said:
Blame Eric Larson. He hated Venom too, and therefore "invented" the teeth-and-tongue-look.

Ya know, i don't know whether to thank the guy for this or to punch him in the face.

I really, really dislike the Venom character. Looking back on it, though, i don't know if my distaste for him was merely fueled by Larson's portrayal or if that was what generated it. Kind of a chicken and the egg thing; i'm not entirely sure what to make of it.

Edit: Yeah, it was McFarlane that created Venom's look, but Larson really took the whole tongue, teeth 'n spittle thing to ridiculous levels.
 

Felon said:
The guy was just a photographer, so giving him the physique of a gold-medal weiightlifter doesn't really work in a movie like it would in comics (where herculean builds are accepted as the norm).

Actually Eddie Brock was a reporter... and I guess Clark Kent should be worried about his build now also. ;) :lol:
 

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