Power Attack/Leaping Charge attack

[Darklone]

Lions charge from SpC page 133 does what? Pounce I guess. But it's a druid 3 spell too, e.g. 5th level.

Any restriction of that Complete Champion thing?

 

[1500run]

Lion Totem Barbarian 1. Yeah, that's rough.

not everyone's DM lets every ol' piece of junk into their campaign.


*edit* speeling

 

[dirkformica]

For what it's worth, here's the text for the erratas for both the Frenzied Berserker and Leap Attack:

Supreme Power Attack: A 10th-level frenzied
berserker deals +100% the normal damage from her use
of the Power Attack feat. In other words, when using
the Power Attack feat, a frenzied berserker wielding a
two-handed weapon gains a +4 bonus on damage rolls
(instead of a +2 bonus) for each –1 penalty she applies
to her attack rolls.

Page 110: Leap Attack
The second sentence of the Benefit paragraph should
read as follows:
If you cover at least 10 feet of horizontal distance with
your jump, and you end your jump in a square from
which you threaten your target, you deal +100% the
normal bonus damage from your use of the Power
Attack feat.

So Leap Attack with a two-handed weapon is 1 to 4 ratio. Now just don't ask how those two interact together.

 

[Ridley's Cohort]

I'm just saying its stated different in the errata, so its something to consider.

Fair enough. Apologies if I sounded snipey.

 

[Bloodweaver1]

Speaking of FB...

What is the correct math for the subject thread when Sup. Power Attack is thrown into the mix?


-Blood

 

[Darklone]

Well, twice +100% from the use of Power Attack yields a +6 to damage for every -1 to hit. Argh.

 

[Felix]

It's actually quite easy via lion's charge (magical or psionic).

Are the spells or manifestations standard actions?

Because if they are, then you spend one action casting it; an action that could be used to close with the enemy or cast a different spell. If it's the psion or druid casting it on themselves, they've spent feats making themselves more martial; they could otherwise be a more powerful spellcaster.

A straight druid taking Leap Attack can take it at 6th level at the earliest; when he would otherwise take Natural Spell. I suggest that Natural Spell is stronger. Druids can make good combatats, but like clerics they need a few rounds to get their buffs up. So a Leap Pounceing Attacking Druid enhances his martial prowess at the cost of his spellcasting; I'd argue that's a net loss.

If a barbarian relies upon another character to cast Pounce on him, then he tethers himself to that caster when he could otherwise be more mobile.

It's not impossible, it just takes some contortions within character creation or party tactics to make it close to worth the trouble.

So Leap Attack with a two-handed weapon is 1 to 4 ratio.

The errata may be official, but whoever decided this was foolish; it contravenes every precident in the game regarding bonus multiplication.

not everyone's DM lets every ol' piece of junk into their campaign.

*rases hand*

 

[Moon-Lancer]

Fair enough. Apologies if I sounded snipey.

no problem. we all get passionate about rules now and again. no worries.

Well, twice +100% from the use of Power Attack yields a +6 to damage for every -1 to hit. Argh.

complete warriors errata (frenzied berserker) and the errata (leap attack) are the same. However, complete warrior also has and example of how to interpret the +100%. It stats that its a 1 to 4 ratio with a two handed sword.