prestigeous Paladin, Bard & Ranger, what about Hexblade?

[Eman Resu]

I think this would make a great op. to include "more" to the class. Please post your opinions with changes/alterations or outright omishions.

prereqs: +2 BAB & 1 arcane caster level
so a sample entry would be, 2nd level fighter & 1st level Sorcerer
& retian Hexblade class features
1 gain Warlock Eld Blast (EB) 1d6
2 level of spellcaster
3 1 Warlock invocation
4 level of spellcaster
5 2d6 EB
6 level of spell caster
7 2nd Warlock invocation
8 level of spell caster
9 3d6 EB
10 level of spellcaster
11 3rd Warlock invocation
12 level of spell caster
13 4d6 EB
14 level of spell caster
15 4th Warlock invocation

d8 or d10 h pts & 3/4 BAB or full?

throw in couple of the Warlock perks like fiendish resilence and detect magic at will and I think its a good potential

just brian storming here, be gentle!

Eman Resu

 

[Eman Resu]

correction - prestigious
and I forgot good fort and good will saves
and and, after looked over the other prestigiuos classes agian I think the combo of Warlock and the spell caster will really make this an interesting class, and I would say max BAB and a D8,
if 3/4 BAB and a d8 then more Warlocky goodies should be added and/or more spell levels.

Seem solid? to much? to little? just right?

 

[Eman Resu]

I was sure the prestigiuos Hexblade would of sparked some interest, the lack of interest so far is interesting. I had read that many felt the Hexblade should be more Warlocky.

 

[Borthos]

No one would take it because it only gives 7 levels of spellcasting over 15 levels. Looks interesting, but not what a hexblade is. IF you want to homebrew a warlocky hexblade, cool, but a prestigious one doesn't need EB, it needs the Hbs class features, condensed

 

[Eman Resu]

No one would take it because it only gives 7 levels of spellcasting over 15 levels. Looks interesting, but not what a hexblade is. IF you want to homebrew a warlocky hexblade, cool, but a prestigious one doesn't need EB, it needs the Hbs class features, condensed

Oh your right I forgot to mention, as per the other 3 already existing prestiguos classes, the prestigiuois Hexblade would retian all class features of the Hexblade, except its spellcasting.

Also the Hexblade's highest spell level is 4th, which is on par with a 7th level spell caster, hence the given spell level. His caster level will be equal to his Hexblade level and any levels (min 1) of spellcaster taken prior.

I will go back and fix the OP info...

 

[Borthos]

Oh your right I forgot to mention, as per the other 3 already existing prestiguos classes, the prestigiuois Hexblade would retian all class features of the Hexblade, except its spellcasting.

Also the Hexblade's highest spell level is 4th, which is on par with a 7th level spell caster, hence the given spell level. His caster level will be equal to his Hexblade level and any levels (min 1) of spellcaster taken prior.

I will go back and fix the OP info...

closer, but still I think you've overshot the target. Keeping a similar spell progression, AND the HB class features AND the Eldritch Blast AND the invocations is too much. You get the class features of a decent class, full BAB, spells AND at will SLAs? That's crazy. Sure you only get a few of them but constant flight, unlimited Dimension Door, all the other crazy stuff you can do with invocations is nuts. that and at 20th level, 4d6 all day is pathetic, you're better off getting into melee with your full BAB

 

[Eman Resu]

closer, but still I think you've overshot the target. Keeping a similar spell progression, AND the HB class features AND the Eldritch Blast AND the invocations is too much. You get the class features of a decent class, full BAB, spells AND at will SLAs? That's crazy. Sure you only get a few of them but constant flight, unlimited Dimension Door, all the other crazy stuff you can do with invocations is nuts. that and at 20th level, 4d6 all day is pathetic, you're better off getting into melee with your full BAB

Thats why Im posting it here and asked for your opinions with changes/alterations or outright omit.

 

[Borthos]

Yeah, and I'm just giving you suggestions. Like I said, keep it to a HB progression, but condense it down, don't give it warlock stuff. Condense the spell casting to a reasonable level, and mess with the ability progression, but drop the warlock stuff

 

[Eman Resu]

I was expecting to have people responding to chop off this or that, better to start high and widdle down approach. The reasoning behind the Warlock additions is in direct response to a popular beleif that the Hexblade shoulda woulda been more Warlock flavored. The other prestigious classes all gained in spell casting, my version of the Hexblade is a break even, spell casting wise.

I like the ability for the Hexblade to have access to a few invocations and a select few of the Warlock class abilites, but not all, as I agree the Hexblade is missing / should have essence de Warlock.

So what do you think of this version, its a 3/4 BAB, d8, good fort good will
pre reqs +3 BAB, 1st level arcane spellcaster, any non good
class features: gains all Hexblade class features except bonus feats and ?, gains listed Warlock class features
1 detect magic 3/day
2 level of spellcaster
3 1 Warlock invocation
4 level of spellcaster
5 detect magic at will, Warlocks fast healing
6 level of spell caster
7 2nd Warlock invocation
8 level of spell caster,
9 Fiendish resilence
10 level of spellcaster
11 3rd Warlock invocation
12 level of spell caster
13 level of spell caster
14 level of spell caster
15 4th Warlock invocation

 

[Borthos]

I was expecting to have people responding to chop off this or that, better to start high and widdle down approach. The reasoning behind the Warlock additions is in direct response to a popular beleif that the Hexblade shoulda woulda been more Warlock flavored. The other prestigious classes all gained in spell casting, my version of the Hexblade is a break even, spell casting wise.

I like the ability for the Hexblade to have access to a few invocations and a select few of the Warlock class abilites, but not all, as I agree the Hexblade is missing / should have essence de Warlock.

So what do you think of this version, its a 3/4 BAB, d8, good fort good will
pre reqs +3 BAB, 1st level arcane spellcaster, any non good
class features: gains all Hexblade class features except bonus feats and ?, gains listed Warlock class features
1 detect magic 3/day
2 level of spellcaster
3 1 Warlock invocation
4 level of spellcaster
5 detect magic at will, Warlocks fast healing
6 level of spell caster
7 2nd Warlock invocation
8 level of spell caster,
9 Fiendish resilence
10 level of spellcaster
11 3rd Warlock invocation
12 level of spell caster
13 1 free feat
14 level of spell caster
15 4th Warlock invocation

Personally, I've never heard or seen the "Hexblade should have Warlock stuff" deal, but that's just me. I like this version better, you got rid of the EB, but I'm not feeling the free feat. Maybe stick fiendish resilience at 13 or the fast healing at 13, but the free feat just kinda seems like you did something for a dead level. And tell what level of invocation they'll get, least/lesser/greater/dark