Produce Flames and Cure x Wounds

[Miqaxd]

If a cleric w/ the fire domain or a druid casts Produce Flames, then next round casts a Cure x Wounds, does the person receiving the cure x wounds heal wounds AND take fire damage from the Produce Flames? Can the cleric/druid choose for the Produce Flames not to damage his ally, without dismissing the spell?

 

[Pyrex]

Without the 'Spell Flower' monstrous feat you can only hold one touch spell at a time. Casting the Cure spell would end the Produce Flame spell.

 

[Li Shenron]

I think so too, unless Produce Flame description says otherwise, if you cast another spell then PF automatically ends.

 

[kjenks]

The druid can touch the recipient of the Cure spell with the other hand.

Produce Flame is not a traditional Touch spell. It's like a fancy Light spell that you can also use as a weapon, but each use reduces the duration of the Light effect.

 

[Infiniti2000]

Without the 'Spell Flower' monstrous feat you can only hold one touch spell at a time. Casting the Cure spell would end the Produce Flame spell.

I don't agree. Produce flame is not a 'touch' spell, as described in the holding a charge section. It's an effect spell. I agree with kjenks that you could cast another spell with your other hand, if you had your other hand available (though many druids and clerics have shields).

 

[Miqaxd]

Well, we have two votes for dismiss the spell, and two votes for allowing both to exist, one for each hand. Anyone else have any ideas about how this would work?

 

[kjenks]

Don't vote; read the rules. Produce Flame is not a Touch spell, so it does not obey the rules for Touch spells.

 

[Miqaxd]

Beating a dead horse?

So how would this work if the caster was carrying shield on the other hand. Could you still cast cure x if the produce flames was still going on, and what effect would it have? Fizzle out? Person both takes and heals damage?

 

[atom crash]

If you are carrying a shield in the other hand, then you do not have a free hand to complete the somatic component of the cure x spell, so you cannot cast the cure x spell.

 

[Infiniti2000]

If you are carrying a shield in the other hand, then you do not have a free hand to complete the somatic component of the cure x spell, so you cannot cast the cure x spell.

Agreed. Additionally, if you really really wanted to cast that cure spell you would have to free up one of your hands. This would require a move to loose the shield or a standard action to dismiss the produce flame. Obviously, in a crunch situation such as healing the fighter who is at -9 hp, loosing the shield is the better option so that you don't have to do the healing next round (unless you have a quickened cure wounds handy of course).