Project Daedalus OOC thread

[Agamon]

It's all about the pie.

 

[Calinon]

Hey, just explaining where I figure his comment came from. Besides, many of my suggestions American in it.

And no, I don't like pie. Have you ever tried to find pie that won't send a diabetic into shock? Pie sucks! Except sugar free pie, but that's only good if they have sugar free ice cream. Which they don't! ARGH!

 

[Mimic]

mmmm... pumpkin pie....

 

[Calinon]

"Ningún resto esta noche."

Is that esperanto, or only a language you and albino dwarves can understand? Translations man! Translations! Make it so everyone can understand you.

 

[Mimic]

Is that esperanto, or only a language you and albino dwarves can understand? Translations man! Translations! Make it so everyone can understand you.

It's Babel fish spanish, I will go edit.

 

[Master_Pugs]

America's Elite Guardian and Investigation Service...?

Works for me... plus saying America's instead of American makes it seam more like we work for America rather then just being American...

 

[Master_Pugs]

Plus... America doesn't mean anything really patriotic... frankly the US is just a country in the middle of the northern half of the americas...

 

[Agamon]

HH, where does Jennifer live right now? Somewhere near or in the Rockies was my guess, but I'll let you come up with the specifics.

 

[Elementor]

And perhaps you can explain the meaning of "Pseudo-Patriotism Propaganda". How is it pseudo and why is it propaganda?

Gladly. Calinon is quite right on most points. Patriotism in a nutshell is an unwaivering loyalty to ones own country. The fact that a number (whatever final number it ends up being) of us are not American citicens means that it would only be Pseudo-Patriotism as opposed to true Patriotism. I call it Patriotism because American Freedom's only jurisdiction (as is appartent with the Mexico City incident) is within the USA. Not all the America's, not North America, just the USA. That means this group is about patriotism. If Vancouver gets attacked and Aaron's family needs help he can't help them as part of the group since we have no pull there.

I call it propaganda because anything that has your countries name in it is propaganda. Molsen Canadian beer is Canadian propaganda. Terms like American pie is American propaganda. It forces a familiarity of the term and infers that only in that country will you get something that good. It promotes a patriotic empathy for the product. In your example of World Cup Hockey, Canadians tend to cheer for Team Canada etc. It doesnt matter if your favorite player is Peter Forsberg and he is on Sweden. Because of patriotism you cheer for your home country. If the teams were just called different names it wouldnt be the same. Suddenly when the team names are Regina against Helsinki instead of Canada against Finland we arent as swayed to cheer for one team over another. We still might but the propaganda machine isnt as hard at work.

Having American in the name says we represent America. We become what America is all about. We are Heroes, so that means America is heroic. Thats propaganda. We only deal with American problems so it becomes a patriotic matter. The fact that some of us are NOT American changes patriotism to pseudo-patriotism.

Not trying to be political. Just using words that can easily be construed as political.

Now you see why I try to keep my posts short. Once I start yapping it is hard to shut me up.

 

[Agamon]

I disagree. Calling the team American is not propaganda. It's only a label, propaganda takes more assertive action than simply applying a label that more or less correctly describes what the team is about. Telling the American public that American Freedom is a better team than Justice Elite because JE supports bad UN initiatives like elite registration, and doing so in a formal manner, such as with commercials and billboards and posters and such, that's propaganda.

I kinda understand where you're coming from though. 'American' doesn't quite represent what the group is properly in your point of view, that I can understand. I still don't see a consensus on a name though. I might have to make a poll or something.