promoting a healthier geek and nerd

[Scott DeWar]

I know it seems that the title may scream humor, but as a health concies person-out of necessary- i fond this through a buddy of mine:

high frutose corn syrip

If this is a no no type of thing to post, morrus or mods, just delete it and send me a pm.

 

[frankthedm]

Whether is a pale facsimile of sugar or real sugar, the bigger issue is folks need LESS of it going in their system.

http://www.cracked.com/funny-4180-diet-products/
Due to the cruel laws of physics, losing weight requires two things:

1. Pain

2. Hunger

This is due to a few fairly simple facts about your body. Your body wants to store fat, because through most of human history, food was scarce and in times of plenty it wants to store up for when supplies are short.

This is a process your body invented to keep you alive, over centuries of living in a world that did not have fast food or Hostess snack cakes. Any time you try to stop or undo that process, your body will send unpleasant sensations to your brain, because it thinks you're setting youself up to starve to death.

To lose weight, you must endure those unpleasant sensations. There is no shortcut.

 

[Relique du Madde]

I know it seems that the title may scream humor, but as a health concies person-out of necessary- i fond this through a buddy of mine:

high frutose corn syrip

If this is a no no type of thing to post, morrus or mods, just delete it and send me a pm.

Wait... did science just verify the superiority of Mexican Coke* there?!?!?

* For those who never drank the wonder known as Mexican Coke, it uses REAL CANE SUGAR and not High Frutose Corn Syrup.

 

[Relique du Madde]

Double post

 

[Thunderfoot]

Pepsi is starting to revert back to using sugar instead of HFCS, most of their products (most notably Sierra Mist) are slowly switching over.

Yes, sugar is bad, but at least it is easier to break down than HFCS.

 

[Kzach]

That Cracked comment is BS.

I'm on a diet program I built myself from my knowledge and research into nutrition and calorie intake requirements. It's designed for a healthy lifestyle for a person of average weight for my sex and build. Because I'm over that weight, I gradually lose weight until I hit that medium. And any exercise I do over the average hour per day incorporated into the design of the diet, increases the rate that I lose weight.

This method of weight-loss is very gradual. It will take roughly two years for me to get to my goal weight. However, it does not require starvation, nor does it make me hungry. I am fully satisfied after every meal.

The problem with modern diet programs is that they quite literally put you on the edge of starvation and enforce unrealistic exercise regimes. Sure, you lose weight fast, but you don't make realistic and permanent life-changes, and losing weight that fast can actually be seriously detrimental to your health.

 

[Umbran]

Okay, I see some signs of some bad science reporting in the article linked in the OP. For example, this:

"High doses of free fructose have been proven to literally punch holes in the intestinal lining... "

That's the kind of verbiage specifically designed to make you FEAR HFCS!!!1!! It is emotionally loaded, but lacks the data necessary to allow you to know if it is relevant. If that "high dose" is well over what any human would actually ingest, this effect won't be seen in people, and is not relevant to discussion.

It is like arguing that sand is evil because if you drop a rock of unstated size on your head, you'll die. It is a common form of manipulative BS, and makes me distrust the rest of the article. If his point was as strong as it ought to be, this tactic would be unnecessary. He does it more in talking about "contaminants" - innuendo and suggestion abound.

So, really, as science reporting, this is a load of horsehockey. I would not recommend using this article to make decisions about HFCS in your food.

 

[Scott DeWar]

Umbran, If you feel it is neccessary to lock this, pleas do. I only posted the link because most gamers i have known to drink a 2 liter of Mt dew or other soda at a setting. As the originator i await any deserved reproof.

Any science that can prove or disprove your comment, that too would be appreciated.

 

[Bedrockgames]

I think cane sugar tastes better than corn sugar, but lately have been trying to shoot for a low calorie diet. Whether or not the science is sound in this article (I know very little about the corn vs. cane sugar issue), it looks like the OPs goal was to promote healthier living in the gaming community, something worthy of discussion I think.

Even though I am very physically active (or was until about January of this year)--running 5 days a week, lifting weights and participating in a number of sports--I became quite ill recently and needed a number of bowel surgeries. While much of it was dumb luck, some of it probably stemmed from my diet and some bad habits I developed (too much pizza and coffee at table top games, not enough vegetables fruits, etc; sitting for prolonged periods of time to write or read, not getting enough water, not getting enough fiber).

The impact of this on my gaming has been profound. Not only have I not been able to participate regularly in games with my friends; I actually had to bring a game I was running to a halt to go to the emergency room.

What I learned was, once one thing goes wrong, it can take time and effort to bring everything else back in line and continue with the activities you enjoy.

 

[Rhun]

These days, everything will kill you. Now, I'm a fairly health conscious person...I eat well, and I work-out 4-5 times a week. But every time I turn around it is "this is bad for you" or "that is bad for you." Honestly, it starts to get annoying. While I'm sure HFCS is bad for you in large quantities, I doubt a little here and there is really going to do enough to harm a person. And who wants to go through life fearing that if they have a Mountain Dew that they are going to die from what is contains anyway?