Question involving magical items...

[Psyduck]

I was looking through the DMG and found on page 176 this ruling:

"For a saving throw against a spell or spell-like effect from a magic item, the DC is ALWAYS 10 + the level of spell or effect + the ability bonus of the minimum ability score needed to cast that level of spell"

My questions is this:

Does this ruling include wands, scrolls, etc that is actually made by a PC or NPC, or do they use their own Int/Wis/Chr?

 

[Xahn'Tyr]

Sadly, when you put a spell into one of those items, it loses a lot of it's strength. You ALWAYS drop the DCs down to the minimum possible value, regardless of the caster's stats or desires.