Races and their new Stats

Sadrik

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Anybody have any guesses as to what the race's new stat bonuses will be?

(I used a -2 SIZE to indicate small size, which will lower speed and give penalties to damage but bonuses to hit and to stealth.)

Code:
Race	Bonuses
Dragonborn	+2 STR, +2 INT
Dwarf	+4 CON, low light vision, -2 MV

Eladrin	+2 DEX, +2 INT, lowlight vision, sleepless
Elf	+2 DEX, +2 WIS, lowlight vision, sleepless
Halfling	+4 DEX, -2 SIZE
Human	???
Tiefling	+2 DEX, +2 CHA, lowlight vision

Other Races
Drow	+2 DEX, +2 CHA, darkvision, light sensitivity 
Goblin	+2 DEX, +2 CON, -2 SIZE, lowlight vision
Hobgoblin	+2 DEX, +2 CON, lowlight vision 
Bugbear	+2 DEX, +4 STR, lowlight vision 
Orc	+4 STR, +2 CON, -2 INT, -2 CHA, darkvision, light sensitivity
Kobold	???
 

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Well, first off, you should probably drop all instances of Darkvision you've got up there; for instance, it's been stated that Drow will not have it.
 

Stormtalon said:
Well, first off, you should probably drop all instances of Darkvision you've got up there; for instance, it's been stated that Drow will not have it.
What?!? I only heard that dwarves will not have it.

I figured anybody with light sensitivity would still have darkvision- anybody who didn't have that would not.
 

Your entry is prety much spot on, but we already know that elves have nothing to do with trance, because is not mentioned in the entry that we saw on christmas, and the previous statement about darkvision.

My only diferences is that the Dragonbourn should have a charisma bonus, making them great leaders, and maybe good sorcerers in the future, as required for the warlord class, that the humans have a floating bonus to any atribute, and that tiefling should have a int bonus to meke them good wizards too.

Code:
Race	Bonuses
Dragonborn	+2 STR, +2 CHA
Dwarf	+4 CON, low light vision, -2 MV

Eladrin	+2 DEX, +2 INT, lowlight vision
Elf	+2 DEX, +2 WIS, lowlight vision
Halfling	+4 DEX, -2 SIZE
Human	+2 ANY
Tiefling	+2 INT, +2 CHA, lowlight vision
 

senna said:
Your entry is prety much spot on, but we already know that elves have nothing to do with trance, because is not mentioned in the entry that we saw on christmas, and the previous statement about darkvision.

My only diferences is that the Dragonbourn should have a charisma bonus, making them great leaders, and maybe good sorcerers in the future, as required for the warlord class, that the humans have a floating bonus to any atribute, and that tiefling should have a int bonus to meke them good wizards too.
Tiefling should make good warlocks, which is likely to be based on CHA like the current edition. Also, warlords are based on INT according to something that I read- so that means dragonborn should get INT because I think I read dragonborn are going to be good warlords.

Tiefling just seem like they should have a DEX bonus.

Possibly Eladrin could be +2 WIS and +2 INT instead of +2 DEX and +2 INT? I think the elf article made that unlikely as they eluded: Elf +2 DEX, +2 WIS; Eladrin +2 DEX, +2 INT; Drow +2 DEX, +2 CHA. And if Drow are +2 DEX, +2 CHA then maybe you are right that Tieflings are not +2 DEX, +2 CHA... Hmm.
 

Best guesses on skill bonuses:

Code:
Race	Skill Bonuses
Dragonborn	+2 Intimidate, +2 History
Dwarf	+2 Climb, +2 Build

Eladrin	+2 Perception, +2 Arcana
Elf	+2 Perception, +2 Nature
Halfling	+2 Swim, +2 Streetwise
Human	+2 to any two
Tiefling	+2 Occult, +2 Intimidate

Drow	+2 Perception, +2 Dungoneering
 


If they're doing this, I hope being Small has some serious effects on your strength score - the idea of halflings being as strong as humans is pretty ridiculous.
 

Odd as it may sound I was hoping that there would be no stat bonuses. Size bonus I can easily understand. I was hoping for more subtle racial abilities rather than numerical bonuses.
 

I'm still hoping there will be some variance to the stat bonuses - for example, dwarves gaining "only" +2 Con and a larger amount of racial abilities than elves. Dwarves are already a powerful race in 3E, and once you take away the Charisma penalty I think you would only need to increase some of the other racial bonuses to balance the new dwarves with the 4E elves.
 

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