Radiant and Fire damage

[MarauderX]

Hopefully this is an easy one that I just couldn't find. A creature does damage of a type that is radiant and fire, with ongoing radiant and fire damage. Would a character with only fire resistance still take the full damage (initial and ongoing)?

Thanks in advance -
~MX

 

[Shin Okada]

From Core Rulebooks Update version 4

Also, resistance doesn’t reduce damage unless the target has resistance to each type of damage from the attack, and then only the weakest of the resistances applies. For example, a character who has resist 10 lightning and resist 5 thunder who takes 15 lightning and thunder damage takes 10 damage because the resistance value to the combined damage types is limited by the lesser of the two resistances.

Hope this helps.

 

[babinro]

A creature does damage of a type that is radiant and fire, with ongoing radiant and fire damage. Would a character with only fire resistance still take the full damage (initial and ongoing)?

Yes, full damage initially and when ongoing takes effect.

I believe even if the PC were somehow immune to Fire damage they would take full damage from the multi-source attack.

Damage resistances get more and more common as the game progresses. As such, it is worth considering powers with multiple damage types as a caster given the overall effectiveness of them in 4E compared to prior editions.

 

[MarauderX]

Rock on, thanks for the swift replies.

 

[DracoSuave]

Yes, full damage initially and when ongoing takes effect.

I believe even if the PC were somehow immune to Fire damage they would take full damage from the multi-source attack.

The rules for resistance are not the rules for immunity.

Immunity says you take zero damage of that type. Immunity works fine.

 

[Mahali]

The rules for resistance are not the rules for immunity.

Immunity says you take zero damage of that type. Immunity works fine.

DMG pg 7
Some powers deal damage that combine two or more damage types. The target must have resistance or immunity to all of the specified damage types to reduce or ignore the damage.

 

[Chimerasame]

I understand the rules for damage that is "radiant and fire," but how does it work when a creature has resistance of that sort?

I can't remember now where I saw it, but I believe I saw a PP or ED somewhere that purported to have a substantial amount of resistance to "fire and radiant" damage. I presume it meant to fire damage and also to radiant damage, or else it would be rather useless as a feature. Unless you fight a bunch of Flames of Hope...

 

[Mahali]

I understand the rules for damage that is "radiant and fire," but how does it work when a creature has resistance of that sort?

The lowest resistance/immunity applies.

You take 10 dmg "radiant and fire"
resist 5 radiant, resist 20 fire = 5 dmg

 

[DracoSuave]

He meant a creature who has resistance 20 fire and radiant, not how resistances work against damage of two types.

The answer is simple.

'Resist 20 fire and radiant' simply means 'Resist 20 fire' and 'resist 20 radiant.' You'll see it as shorthand a lot on the MM, but it doesn't mean anything special, just that he has two resistances that have the same number.

And, it does resist 20 vs fire and radiant damage.