Ralph Fiennes and Jeremy Irons: EnWorld Decides!

[Snarf Zagyg]

Haven't posted a thread in a while, so I thought I'd go back to a concept I had a while back ... for those of you who remember the GREAT PETER WELLER / LANCE HENRICKSEN KERFUFFLE!

Lance Henriksen and Peter Weller: EnWorld Decides

I have been involved in a long-running conversation/debate/discussion, which, boiled down, has roughly two sides: 1. Lance Henriksen is the poor man's Peter Weller. 2. Peter Weller is the poor man's Lance Henriksen. If you aren't familiar with this phrasing, allow me to assist- when someone...

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I just had a breakfast conversation, part of a long-running series, in which the following debate was continued:

1. Ralph Fiennes is the poor man's Jeremy Irons.
2. Jeremy Irons is the poor man's Ralph Fiennes.

If you aren't familiar with this phrasing, allow me to assist- when someone thinks of, say, an actor, and you think, "Well, that actor is just like ... but not quite the same ... as another actor." So examples of that would be-
Skeet Ulrich is the poor man's Johnny Depp (90s special!).
Gary Busey is the poor man's Nick Nolte.
Andy Garcia is the poor man's Al Pacino.
Jesse Plemons is the poor man's Phillip Seymour Hoffman.
Dennis Quaid is the poor man's Kurt Russell.
Mark Wahlberg is the poor man's Matt Damon.
etc.

Anyway, normally the case is obvious. And here, I think it is as well. One is obviously the poor man's version of the other, and the only people would disagree are bards, elves, and other assorted ne'er-do-wells. Which side did I take? Well.... I don't want to skew the results.

I look to the wisdom of EnWorld, the same wisdom that previously decided that Peter Weller is the poor man's Lance Henriksen.

Now, a quick bit of background (some fun facts, if you will):

1. At one time, Ralph Fiennes tried to get Jeremy Irons' autograph.
2. Both actors have been cast as Alfred in a Batman movie.
3. Both actors have numerous nominations and awards, but one is surprisingly closer to an EGOT than you might guess.
4. Both actors are known not just for their amazing acting in prestige pieces, but also for unexpectedly showing up in strange places and genre roles.
5. Both actors have appeared in a Cronenberg movie.

Now, despite all of that, I am predicting that the majority of people here will likely determine that this is actually a battle between Scar from the Lion King and Voldemort. Thinking. I'm good with that.

 

[payn]

Oh, this is so close! Both have done amazing work, and also amazingly bad work; lol

Y'all are going to hate me but I'm going with Irons being the poor man due to Dungeons and Dragons movie. Im letting that be the tie breaker.

 

[overgeeked]

Which one was in that terrible D&D movie again?

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

Which one was in that terrible D&D movie again?

Fun fact!

Christian Bale, Matthew McConaughey, AND Gerard ("Call me Jerry") Butler were all in Reign of Fire!

Oh, you meant the other move about dragons ....

 

[Gradine]

Which one was in that terrible D&D movie again?

C'mon, 2 Fast 2 Furious wasn't that bad.

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

C'mon, 2 Fast 2 Furious wasn't that bad.

Is it just me, or are the opportunities and synergies between the Fast & Furious franchise and Olive Garden too good to pass up?

 

[Gradine]

Is it just me, or are the opportunities and synergies between the Fast & Furious franchise and Olive Garden too good to pass up?

Sonic already beat them to the punch on that one.

 

[CleverNickName]

I thought Matt Mercer was the poor man's Jeremy Irons?

Or maybe the young man's Jeremy Irons?
(Good luck un-seeing that for the rest of the day.)

 

[Gradine]

Anyways, I've got a few bones to pick with Ralph Fiennes, not the least of which is the name. It's spelled Ralph. That's not Rafe, friendo. You're not even Welsh! What's your excuse? Coming from money?

There's also the anti-trans stuff... that kind of bigotry negatively impacts the glands that make you good at acting. It's just basic biology.

The name thing though... that really gets my goat.

Jeremy Irons is no stranger to putting his foot in his mouth either, but he's also the only actor in the entire cast of Dungeons & Dragons (2000) who understood the assignment and devoured every piece of scenery in a five-km radius and that kind of conviction deserves to be rewarded, quite frankly.

Also, Scar is Disney's greatest Evil Queen. Don't @ me

 

[payn]

Is it just me, or are the opportunities and synergies between the Fast & Furious franchise and Olive Garden too good to pass up?

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

Tokyo Drift was the last GOOD F&F movie.

Yeah, I said it.

 

[payn]

Tokyo Drift was the last GOOD F&F movie.

Yeah, I said it.

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

True Star Wars Fan: Han Shot First.

True F&F Fan: Han Died First.

 

[Olgar Shiverstone]

And the Academy Award for Scenery Chewing goes to ... Jeremy Irons!

 

[Gradine]

Tokyo Drift was the last GOOD F&F movie.

Yeah, I said it.

So you're saying you preferred the franchise from before it became "Dungeons & Dragons with cars"?

 

[overgeeked]

Tokyo Drift was the last GOOD F&F movie.

I wasn’t aware there were any good Fast & Furious movies.

 

[Snarf Zagyg]

I wasn’t aware there were any good Fast & Furious movies.

....that's what she said!

 

[Ralif Redhammer]

Both have fairly significant bodies of work, with some works of cinematic art and cinematic...not art. But at their best, I'd give Irons the edge with Dead Ringers, Watchmen, and Reversal of Fortune alone.

And as terrible as the movie and his performance is in it, he's the best thing about the Dungeons and Dragons movie.

 

[ilgatto]

Don't forget Brideshead Revisited.

However, I think Fiennes takes the cake in Onegin.

 

[Voadam]

Ozymandias FTW!