Ranged Combat At Night

[frankthedm]

Those raiders in the bright light would need cover to hide, those in the shadowy light could hide from the humans, though unless those raiders used cover to hide, the elf would not need to bother with spotting them due to his low light vision. Anyone inside what the elf percieves as shadowy light could try hiding from the elf.

 

[frankthedm]

For some reason my group seems to have nothing in the way of alchemical items. No sunrods, thunderstones or tanglefoot bags. Perhaps I have to use them against them so they can see how useful they can be.

A 2nd level Hobgoblin fighter can distribute 50 Alchemist fires amoung a horde of goblins and still have enough gear value for masterwork armor and weapons.

 

[Dross]

You may be thinking of "If a line passes through a square that grants concealment, the creature has concealment".

I think there's a difference between "a square that grants concealment to something within it", and "a square that grants concealment to something beyond it". Fog, for example, not only conceals things inside the fog, it also prevents seeing past the fog. Darkness, on the other hand, prevents you seeing something inside it, but you can see something illuminated beyond the darkness just fine.
-Hyp.

That's the way we played it (didn't bother looking at the rules since it sounded reasonable and fair) on the only occassion it has come up.

Then within a fortnight the subject was broached within another thread.

 

[frankthedm]

The square counting is not perfect, bu this one shows about how much coverage low light vision gets with light souces {dark grey is shadowy for those with low life vision. {previous diagram was also off due to lanterns lighting 30' not 20'.

 

[Len]

Magical darkness, on the other hand, I'm inclined to think of as an intangible translucent (and faintly glowing) mist; looking through a square of magical darkness would be like looking through a tinted window, and thus would grant concealment to something beyond it. I could entertain an argument otherwise, though - after all, it's magical!

Dude, nobody knows what "shadowy illumination" looks like. It's one of the great mysteries of our time.

 

[Hypersmurf]

Dude, nobody knows what "shadowy illumination" looks like.

Sure we do. It's what a candle radiates in an otherwise dark room.

What we don't know is what shadowy illumination looks like when it's surrounded by full daylight.

-Hyp.

 

[Slaved]

Dude, nobody knows what "shadowy illumination" looks like. It's one of the great mysteries of our time.

Invisible candles.

Duh!


And too slow....

 

[Christian]

Until we got into a situation like this, nobody understood why my elf druid always prepared faerie fire ... The human ranger archery specialist was so happy when there were suddenly visible targets.

 

[frankthedm]

What we don't know is what shadowy illumination looks like when it's surrounded by full daylight.

Any reason why it would not look like this?

 

[Hypersmurf]

Any reason why it would not look like this?

The fence is in full daylight.

If something casts a normal shadow over the volume between me and the fence, it doesn't obscure my view of the fence at all; I still see the brightly-lit fence.

It's not clear from the description of the Darkness spell whether it affects your view of anything on the other side of the area of shadowy illumination.

-Hyp.