D&D General [rant]The conservatism of D&D fans is exhausting.

[Maxperson]

Sigh.

This is what I mean about talking about stuff when you don't know what you are talking about. Caramon and Sturm both had their HP errata'd in DL5. The numbers you are using are wrong. Which you would know if you actually used the modules. Which I have run multiple times over the years. Why on earth has it already breathed on them twince in the Plaza of Death? Any PC's worth anything have killed Khisanth before it's even taken a turn. 64 points of damage with 5 fighter types? Not really too difficult.

But, I guess my actual play experience just pales before your 30 second reading from Anyflip.

Again, it's really, really frustrating to have to constantly deal with this. Note, to be fair, we did do the "breath weapons deal current HP" damage rule. Which would make the fight considerably easier. Then again, I also ran this in 2e (as well as running it in 1e) which mean that the 6th level PC's obliterated Khisanth in the first round. Never minding that by this point, Sturm (or someone) should have the double damage against dragons two handed sword. 6d6 damage on a hit makes pretty short work of something with 64 HP.

What are they going to do when she breathes from the air in the plaza of death, jump really high? Yell at it?

Also, the individual modules which I had an also ran, are every bit as valid as some errata'd modules put out later on. In that module it says she flies around breathing on the group twice.

Why do you assume they are all winning initiative? And yes, if you had it do current hit point damage, it would make it MUCH easier. Doing max damage is why dragons were so fearsome in 1e. Take that away and they are not nearly as dangerous.

Edit: I looked at the errata by the way. 3 of the 8 still die whether they save or not and the other 5 die if they fail the save. The plaza of death still says two breaths before flying away and the dragon is in total darkness, so they can't see where in the air it's at in any case. The dragon ain't dying there. The PCs are.

I love how they upped Tasslehoff's hit points from 15 to 16. That will help.

Goldmoon and Raistlin have no increase. The only really sizable improvement was for Sturm who went from 29 to 49 hit points, so he still has a 60% chance of dying instantly.