D&D 5E [RANT] Why are centaurs not humanoids / unplayable?

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Does anybody know why centaurs are not considered humanoids, yet mermaids (merfolk) and aaracoras are?
Also why are they unplayable (they make much more sense than a bird creature that dies when it hits 30)?
 

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I'm going to go out a limb here and say Humanoids are bipedal. Centaurs...aren't.

Also humanoids conform more or less to human shape and structure. Centaurs are horses with a person for a face.
 

^this
but if you really want to play one, talk to your DM and work something out. Good luck climbing a ladder though.
 

I'm going to go out a limb here and say Humanoids are bipedal. Centaurs...aren't.

Also humanoids conform more or less to human shape and structure. Centaurs are horses with a person for a face.

And merfolk are fish with "a person for a face" and aaracoras are literally birds with extra hands (hexipedal just as centaurs are). Your point?
Centaurs are the closest to being mistaken for a person, provided they hide the rest of their body behind a bush or something.
 

By the way, I am sorry if I come as hostile about this. It's just one of the little things that properly grinds my gears.
 

No need to get salty. The fact is a humanoid is a humanoid. It is bi-pedal. That is, "two-feet." The fact the aaracokra has 6 "limbs" and so does a centaur, does not make them the same. A Humanoid is a biped. A centaur (as any four-legged creature is) is a quadruped.

The answer to your question, "hiding behind a bush" similarities notwithstanding, is because the centaur does not walk on two legs like a human, hence not "humanoid."

The mermen are considered humanoid, I suppose, because they have "less" than two legs, not more. So humanoid is the simplest/most convenient place to put them.

That is not the case for centaurs...and the fact they are not humanoid does not make them "unplayable." The fact they would have significant difficulties navigating most subterranean terrains, climbing of any sort, tight urban (or any other setting than a barn, I suppose) buildings make them a difficult sell for most campaigns/DMs.

I, personally, have/allow centaurs as PCs in my homebrew world. But they do have trouble/find themselves in difficult positions or separated off from the group from time to time. They're just difficult to get around unless you're going to spend the whole time in fields and hills and woods.
 

No need to get salty. The fact is a humanoid is a humanoid. It is bi-pedal. That is, "two-feet." The fact the aaracokra has 6 "limbs" and so does a centaur, does not make them the same. A Humanoid is a biped. A centaur (as any four-legged creature is) is a quadruped.

The answer to your question, "hiding behind a bush" similarities notwithstanding, is because the centaur does not walk on two legs like a human, hence not "humanoid."

The mermen are considered humanoid, I suppose, because they have "less" than two legs, not more. So humanoid is the simplest/most convenient place to put them.

That is not the case for centaurs...and the fact they are not humanoid does not make them "unplayable." The fact they would have significant difficulties navigating most subterranean terrains, climbing of any sort, tight urban (or any other setting than a barn, I suppose) buildings make them a difficult sell for most campaigns/DMs.

I, personally, have/allow centaurs as PCs in my homebrew world. But they do have trouble/find themselves in difficult positions or separated off from the group from time to time. They're just difficult to get around unless you're going to spend the whole time in fields and hills and woods.
If it was about the number of legs, Giant Slugs would be humanoids as well...
The fact that they are not humanoid does indeed make them unplayable - Magic Jar, Reincarnate are out of question, Hold Person doesn't work on them etc.
Also imagine a merfolk doing climbing and navigating subterranean terrains, please do.
 

I'd hardly consider three spells not working on them (I assume you bring them up because the spell description stipulates it works on a "humanoid"?) as being "unplayable"...nor even, really, creating an unfairly "overpowered/imbalanced" race/PC.

As for the giant slug comment, obviously not...they have no arms, legs, nor, really, separate "head" as a humanoid would be expected to have. Here...Draw a stick figure of a human. Could the creature in question be represented by that image. If "yes," then it's a humanoid. If no, then...I'm not sure what you expect anyone to say...it's NOT.

If you are just going to refuse to acknowledge/accept the basic definition of what "humanoid" means, then I don't really see anything to be done/accomplished here.

Have a nice day. Enjoy your rant/grinding your gears.
 

Does anybody know why centaurs are not considered humanoids, yet mermaids (merfolk) and aaracoras are?
Also why are they unplayable (they make much more sense than a bird creature that dies when it hits 30)?

Because they all have a giant horses ass and poor table manners. Where do 90% of adventures start? That's right, in the smoke filled, dimly lit tavern, from the hooded guy sitting in the shadowy corner in the back. How is your 1,000 plus pound horse-butt going to get through door and then navigate across the room of tables and patrons without stepping on feet and causing the tavern wench to spill the drinks she is carrying? Plus there is the issue of random horse droppings, because you still have the digestive system of a horse.

Face it, your a walking social disaster. No cryptic quest giver in their right mind is going to trust the fate of the known world with you. Centaurs just can't get the job done, and thus are never invited to join any of the better adventuring parties.
 

And merfolk are fish with "a person for a face" and aaracoras are literally birds with extra hands (hexipedal just as centaurs are). Your point?
Centaurs are the closest to being mistaken for a person, provided they hide the rest of their body behind a bush or something.
The number of limbs does not equate to their bi-, quadru, or hexi-pedal state.

It refers to the number of limbs that are used to walk upon.

Thus, a centaur is a quadruped. Quadrupeds are not humanoid. Merfolk are the subterranean version of bipedal, or as near as.

And seriously, "so long as they can hide behind a bush"?

/walks away from thread, shaking head.
 

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