D&D 5E (2024) Rate D&D 2024

[mamba]

Amazon gives it 4.6. Out of 5 with circa 2000 reviews. I’ll take that.

and I ignore that because everything D&D ends up having a score of 4.8 give or take +/- 0.1 and there is certainly more variance than that… incidentally that would make the 5.5 books among the worst rated 5e products though (but you are off, just checked, they sit at 4.7 and 4.8, just like everything else, the 2014 PHB sits at 4.9 vs 4.7 for 2024 for what that is worth)

 

[mamba]

What do you play now?

Shadow of the Weird Wizard is my system of choice, ToV if it ‘needs’ to be a 5e-like / 5.5 equivalent.

 

[OB1]

Intersting that nearly all the posts I see in this thread are talking about it being a 5 or below, and yet in the poll 60%+ rate it 7 or higher and a full 33% rate it an 8 or 9. Seems to give credence to the idea that the '24 detractors are a vocal minority.

For me, the system is a 9. I feel what '24 lost in 2e style whimsy, it gained in being even easier to introduce new players to the game and for new DMs to run. Reducing Nova ability while increasing round to round power also has done wonders for reducing the 5MWD, and the new MM is a treasure trove. Looking forward to another great 10 years of 5e.

 

[mamba]

Intersting that nearly all the posts I see in this thread are talking about it being a 5 or below, and yet in the poll 60%+ rate it 7 or higher and a full 33% rate it an 8 or 9. Seems to give credence to the idea that the '24 detractors are a vocal minority.

I have seen plenty of posts that gave it a 6 or higher, probably more than for lower scores (not that I counted them).

Also, if people wanted to detract, they would vote 1 or 2, not 4

 

[kermit4karate]

and I ignore that because everything D&D ends up having a score of 4.8 give or take +/- 0.1 and there is certainly more variance than that… incidentally that would make the 5.5 books among the worst rated 5e products though (but you are off, just checked, they sit at 4.7 and 4.8, just like everything else, the 2014 PHB sits at 4.9 vs 4.7 for 2024 for what that is worth)

A 4.8 out of 5 on Amazon proves 2024 is demonstrably worse than 2014 with its 4.9 and Hasbro should be ashamed.

A whopping 2.5% worse based on ~60,000 votes. If that doesn't scream epic fail what would?

 

[mamba]

A whopping 2.5% worse based on ~60,000 votes. If that doesn't scream epic fail what would?

the 2014 PHB has 54k votes, the 2024 PHB has 2k. Compare that to the 2024 DMG and MM at 30k votes each… wonder why the PHB has so few (for 2014 the DMG also has 30k votes…)

Read into that what you will

 

[TwoSix]

I voted 7. Since I view the 2024 books as a just a light reorg of the 5e essentials, (it's not transformational in any way from 2014 5e), I have 2024 as the same rating I give to 5e as a whole.

It's a solid system for what D&D wants to be, which is a neotrad-leaning game of performative competence based on the D&D tropes of previous editions.

The core game is only a 5, but it goes up a few notches as a robust system for attaching copious amounts of homebrew and some transformational modifications.

For reference, there isn't a single system in the world I would rate as a 10 or a 1, and very few 9s or 2s. I tend to rate as a bell curve, not as a linear relationship. Most games I have I would rate between 4 and 7.

 

[BenjaminPey]

and I ignore that because everything D&D ends up having a score of 4.8 give or take +/- 0.1 and there is certainly more variance than that… incidentally that would make the 5.5 books among the worst rated 5e products though (but you are off, just checked, they sit at 4.7 and 4.8, just like everything else, the 2014 PHB sits at 4.9 vs 4.7 for 2024 for what that is worth)

One star in Amazon is "the box was damaged" and five star is "order delivered in time", so not worth a lot.

 

[kermit4karate]

the 2014 PHB has 54k votes, the 2024 PHB has 2k. Compare that to the 2024 DMG and MM at 30k votes each… wonder why the PHB has so few (for 2014 the DMG also has 30k votes…)

Read into that what you will

I noticed that too. Curious, but I decline to assume it's nefarious. My assumption is there were some combination of marketing campaigns or promotional discounts that influenced the selling.

Do I believe vote spamming and fake voting exist on Amazon? Yes. Do I think that's why the 2024 books score like they do? No.

 

[mamba]

I noticed that too. Curious, but I decline to assume it's nefarious.

I didn’t think nefarious / vote spamming (don’t you need to have bought it from them to vote?), I was more thinking of the number of votes correlating to number of sales, ie the PHB selling significantly less than DMG or MM, not that I have an explanation for that