D&D 5E (2024) Rate D&D 2024

Rathe D&D 2024

  • 1

    Votes: 4 3.0%
  • 2

    Votes: 3 2.2%
  • 3

    Votes: 8 5.9%
  • 4

    Votes: 10 7.4%
  • 5

    Votes: 16 11.9%
  • 6

    Votes: 10 7.4%
  • 7

    Votes: 24 17.8%
  • 8

    Votes: 28 20.7%
  • 9

    Votes: 15 11.1%
  • 10

    Votes: 8 5.9%
  • No opinion, but I wanted to be counted anyway.

    Votes: 9 6.7%

Anyone else thin like this is the kinds shiz we talk about when there aren’t any products to talk about!

Hurry up and release something WotC. We’re going crazy in here.
it even happens when they release stuff… the starter set is two weeks away ;)

Anyone seen any cool 5e compatible stuff recently? What campaigns have been released. Anything that can beat Dungeons of Drakenheim?
ToV’s Monster Vault 2 PDF dropped today for its backers, haven’t taken a look yet though

As far as campaigns go, haven’t really seen much of interest lately, let alone taken a closer look
 

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Just to backtrack for a moment: a proposed solution to the Multiclassing issue might be to raise the requirements.

For starters, each class gets two ASIs like Paladin, Monk, and Ranger: one at 15 and one at 13. Each additional class you add causes these numbers to increase by +1 (maybe +2? Not sure how the math would work out)

So a Fighter can class into Barbarian with STR 15 and CON 13, but if that Fighter-Barbarian also wants to add a level of Warlock they need a a CHA 16 and INT 14.

Also, only natural scores, not those enhanced with magic items.
 

That’s not what the reviews say for the record. They pretty consistently say the game is great and the books are beautiful. Which is want people who aren’t jaded tend to think.

I gave up on Amazon and Good Reads reviews when I saw some of the scores being awarded to the slop Black Library was putting out, which I paid top dollar for the privilege to read.

There are many many many people who are attached to a brand and will give it 4.5 out of 5 just for the fact it gives them something to consume.
 

I gave up on Amazon and Good Reads reviews when I saw some of the scores being awarded to the slop Black Library was putting out, which I paid top dollar for the privilege to read.

There are many many many people who are attached to a brand and will give it 4.5 out of 5 just for the fact it gives them something to consume.

Amazon reviews are a 4.0-5 rating.

Drop the 4 the reviews make more sense.

Its also selection bias. You like a product enough to buy it.
 

Amazon reviews are a 4.0-5 rating.

Drop the 4 the reviews make more sense.

Its also selection bias. You like a product enough to buy it.
I don’t know. You read the 1 star reviews on Amazon and you realize there are some pretty unsavory people out there. I’m kinda ok that they don’t like the system. I’m hoping they go far away!
 


I went with 4.
I know that's harsh, but I simply do not feel that the new version of 5E accomplished what it set out to do... or really even what exactly it is that it was trying to do.

Yes, the books look nice. I am not a fan of the new art style, but, objectively, I can take a step back and say that the technical aspects of the art itself are very well done. Even so, much like the rest of D&D 2024, it (subjectively) feels soulless and less inspiring. I went into 2024 being very excited. Now, I am not. I do not have a rational explanation for that. I can only say that, despite being visually and artistically an improvement in a technical sense, I enjoy the aesthetic less, and I find it less inspiring.

Moving ability score improvements to background is something that I find to be weird. Supposedly, this is an improvement or somehow more inclusive. I do not find this change to be neither an improvement nor something that makes anyone in my group feel more included. It comes across as change for the sake of change, and change that replaced old "problems" with new "problems."

Like I said already, I went into things being very excited. Now, I feel somehow less excited for D&D overall. I really thought that a revamped 5e coming out around an anniversary celebration would be the perfect thing for me. I am within a demographic that should be the target for what some of the 2024 design goals were. But all of it fell flat for me personally, and the previews of future products do not appeal to me.

Sure, there have been some improvements. Problematic spells and abilities were reworked, but it is debatable whether or not the provided "improvements" are overall improvements when you take in the grand sum of the game. I can look at some individual pieces and see things that were made better in isolation. However, I can also look at some that don't really seem to do much of anything at all. Much like with my art comments above, somehow the end product just feels less inspiring to me. Mechanically, there are some small improvements, but there are also places where things have regressed.

To be clear, the game is not bad. It is still mostly just 5e, but with changes tacked on that I do not feel accomplished what the stated goals of those changes were. So, with that in mind, I feel that 2024 is overall a downgrade for 5e. At this point, I would feel better with a 6th edition than continuing to buy into what is effectively WoTC's in-house Pathfinder-for-5e version of their own game.

D&D will remain the game that my group plays because that is the game we all know, but there is less enthusiasm for it going forward.
 

I went with 4.
I know that's harsh, but I simply do not feel that the new version of 5E accomplished what it set out to do... or really even what exactly it is that it was trying to do.

Yes, the books look nice. I am not a fan of the new art style, but, objectively, I can take a step back and say that the technical aspects of the art itself are very well done. Even so, much like the rest of D&D 2024, it (subjectively) feels soulless and less inspiring. I went into 2024 being very excited. Now, I am not. I do not have a rational explanation for that. I can only say that, despite being visually and artistically an improvement in a technical sense, I enjoy the aesthetic less, and I find it less inspiring.

Moving ability score improvements to background is something that I find to be weird. Supposedly, this is an improvement or somehow more inclusive. I do not find this change to be neither an improvement nor something that makes anyone in my group feel more included. It comes across as change for the sake of change, and change that replaced old "problems" with new "problems."

Like I said already, I went into things being very excited. Now, I feel somehow less excited for D&D overall. I really thought that a revamped 5e coming out around an anniversary celebration would be the perfect thing for me. I am within a demographic that should be the target for what some of the 2024 design goals were. But all of it fell flat for me personally, and the previews of future products do not appeal to me.

Sure, there have been some improvements. Problematic spells and abilities were reworked, but it is debatable whether or not the provided "improvements" are overall improvements when you take in the grand sum of the game. I can look at some individual pieces and see things that were made better in isolation. However, I can also look at some that don't really seem to do much of anything at all. Much like with my art comments above, somehow the end product just feels less inspiring to me. Mechanically, there are some small improvements, but there are also places where things have regressed.

To be clear, the game is not bad. It is still mostly just 5e, but with changes tacked on that I do not feel accomplished what the stated goals of those changes were. So, with that in mind, I feel that 2024 is overall a downgrade for 5e. At this point, I would feel better with a 6th edition than continuing to buy into what is effectively WoTC's in-house Pathfinder-for-5e version of their own game.

D&D will remain the game that my group plays because that is the game we all know, but there is less enthusiasm for it going forward.
Mind if I ask you to expand upon "Moving ability score improvements to background is something that I find to be weird"?

I do like 5.5E/2024 more than you appear to. I gave it an 8, but one of my least favorite changes were to the racial ability score bonuses. I preferred the bonuses as they were before. I'm aware of the public discourse surrounding that piece and the previous way of referring to different playable creatures as races, and I can appreciate how some people felt about that, but I do feel like it continues to make more sense for a Goliath to receive a +2 bonus to STR and a +1 bonus to CON than the new way.

I feel like there are clear attempts to reach out to different groups in the new version, but in some cases the conscientiousness confused some things (like ability score bonuses) and creatively watered some things down (some of the art) as well.

Very touchy subjects, I realize.
 



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