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Wrath of the Swarm said:
Yep, your religious beliefs have absolutely nothing to do with this discussion. No siree, you're free of bias and able to judge the merits of competing works based solely on their storytelling and depth of thought, not whether the subject matter appeals to you emotionally.

Glad we cleared that up at last.

Jesus Christ, will you calm down. So the guy "steers his ship by a different star" than you. He likes movies with Jesus. I don't recall Kai Lord anywhere in the thread bitching anyone out becasue they felt differently than he did, he was stating his opinion about movies...which is what this thread (the one he started) was for.

Not to post "irrefutable truths about films"....opinions.
 

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Teflon Billy said:
Jesus Christ, will you calm down.
Okay, that's the funniest post in this thread yet. Hee.

Sorry, just had an image of Pontius Pilate yelling that. Sorry, sorry. I'm bad. I'm a bad, bad person.

Hee.
 

Teflon Billy said:
Jesus Christ, will you calm down. So the guy "steers his ship by a different star" than you. He likes movies with Jesus. I don't recall Kai Lord anywhere in the thread bitching anyone out becasue they felt differently than he did, he was stating his opinion about movies...which is what this thread (the one he started) was for.

Not to post "irrefutable truths about films"....opinions.
LOL! Great post, Teflon Billy. :cool:

This has definately been an interesting thread to read. It's given me lots of new insights into Kill Bill, as well as the martial arts and revenge movie genres. It's also been amusing to watch Wrath of the Swarm's numerous failed attempts to bait Kai Lord.
 


Sorry for bumping the thread--I just saw the movie on Saturday.

After the first movie, I wasn't sure whether to be appalled at my laughter, or to laugh at how appalled I was. The movie was unquestionably brilliant; at the same time, I felt nauseated. My wife sincerely wishes she hadn't seen the movie at all.

In talking about it afterward, I realized that it wasn't the massive, unending violence that bothered me--I've watched most of John Woo's movies without flinching (well, okay, maybe I cringed during Bullet in the Head--I'm only human), and Once Upon a Time in Mexico was good clean mass-slaughter fun. No, it wasn't the violence that bothered me: it was the destruction of the body that freaked me out.

Most violent movies involve lots of shots to the chest, splatters of blood capsules, and falling over and twitching. That's not so bad. KB1 gloried in decapitations, amputations, and torture. And that, on a visceral level, wigged me the hell out.

Add to that the fact that I like violence in movies like cumin in dishes: it should add flavor, but not comprise the food's substance. KB was far from my favorite movie.

So my wife didn't go with me to see KB2, and I almost didn't go see it myself. But oh, I'm glad I did.

Everything that Iron Chef didn't like about the movie was exactly why I loved it. The first scene had me almost whimpering with fear: whereas some folks were looking forward to the massacre action sequence, I was dreading it. I LIKED the people that were about to die, even the horrible bitchy mother-in-law. They were good, decent, innocent folk who didn't deserve to be murdered, and here I was watching them talk and laugh and later watching B talk to Bill and knowing they were all about to die.

The sequence was all about the dread; when it closed with off-screen killings, it was almost quiet, a tragedy rather than an adrenaline shot.

Same thing with the final encounter with Bill and his daughter. The final fight sequence didn't last for twenty seconds: it lasted for probably twenty minutes, starting from the time Bea bursts into the courtyard and going nonstop until Bill falls over dead. Thing is, both characters knew they were in a lethal fight, and they took the time to resolve many issues during the fight. The measured pace of the scene was far more affecting for me than would have been another high-action swordfight, a recap of the O-fight in the first movie.

Different tastes, obviously. But whereas I'll likely never see the first movie again, I'm trying to persuade my wife to see this one as soon as possible, so we can talk about it.

Daniel
 

Wrath of the Swarm said:
You see, that's your problem. You think you know what quality is. You're like those people who think that comic books are necessarily shallow and trite because the medium is inherently inferior, ignoring what can be accomplished and how deeply imaginative people can be touched by them.

Have you even considered the possibility that if everything you see in the films is stupid and juvenile, the problem is in you?

You know, I'm close to taking the unprecedented step of suggesting that Wrath of the Swarm stay out of the movie forum altogether. It brings out the worst in him. One more attack in one more thread, Wrath, and you get a free vacation. My patience is pretty much exhausted.

Ready for a quick rules review, folks? Do not tell other people what they are, or what they think. Do not insult people or pick fights. It's rude, and it's inappropriate, and we're not going to tolerate it.

Link to the Rules.

And considering that I haven't seen the danged movie yet, trying to moderate this thread without getting nailed by spoilers has been nothing if not tricky!
 
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Piratecat said:
And considering that I haven't seen the danged movie yet, trying to moderate this thread without getting nailed by spoilers has been nothing if not tricky!
ENWorld: Where blind moderators lead deaf posters. No wonder we love it.

:D

Pielorinho: That's a brilliant summation of the final act of the film. Well said.
 

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