Recruiting for a High Level Planescape Campaign (dead, see the last post, sorry)

[kinem]

kinem:
Imp sorc 12 is straight out. Any Baatezu with that much power would have been promoted. Ice devil is tentatively okay, but with no class levels for the moment. It's a pretty nasty cr 13. Also remember that gelugons primarily serve Mephistophles or fight in the Blood War. They don't do anything that would be likely to bring them into Sigil and Baatezu really don't like exceptions to the rule.

If I go with a quasit instead of an imp, would that be OK?

With a gelugon, he'd be an exception. Perhaps he gained credit (as last one standing among his troupe) for defeating a powerful human adventuring party, and was granted a favor as a result. He chose to take a vacation in Sigil so he could learn more about these mortals and other races. At the same time, he is looking for more options in life, and there he would be in a good position to be approached by agents of other archdevils or others.

 

[A Crazy Fool]

Shayuri:
Complete arcane, warrior, adventurer, races of stone, races of the wild, PSCS (this is probably the best list of spells for a planar druid), MotP, planar handbook

WarShrike:
That works mechanicaly, though just annother point: Githzerai highly value freedom. It is very, very, very, unlikely that one would sign away thier freedom and soul after thier experiences with the ilthilids.

Kinem:
Again, a quasit with 12 class levels would have consumed enough greater Tanar'ri to be promoted as well.

You can play a greater fiend, but when you do so, you invite me to push you around a bit more. You are extremely old and have and have more enemies than a mortal could make in a lifetime if they tried. You are also acountable to your direct superiors in Sigil and indirect superiors in Cania.

Annother note: non-unique devils (except those that are authorized to travel to the Prime more freely like erinyes and falxugons) get more options through promotion, not through other sources (Devils aren't the most creative bunch). A trip to Sigil does not advance that goal; in fact it hurts it, because while you are away, your peers will prepare to move against you. Ditching Mephistophles will get you killed since other archdevils don't like to enlist gelugons because they are loyal to Mephistophles. You are more trouble than it's worth to protect. Same deal with the aminzu. Your options lie with either the Dark Eight (fighting in the Blood War) or with Mephistophles (pushing others around and serving as an oficer in his personal army).

Baisically, I'm not saying no outright, but given the niche that Gelugons fill, you'll need a far more compelling motivation to move to Sigil. He would already know a great deal about mortals (being tens of thousands of years old and dealing with them in past forms).

The most likely reason a gelugon would be in Sigil is because they screwed up big time and got asigned to command to command a smallish security detail in Hell's Gate, but this would leave little time for other things. If you want to play a devil, it is best to play one that deals with mortals (erinyes, falxugon, etc.) because these devils are suppoused to be in places like Sigil.

 

[Dire Lemming]

Glad to see another planescape game for people who didn't get into the other one. have fun guys! I think I will!

 

[Shayuri]

Awesome. Thankee!

One other thing occurred to me. Magical items for a pseudodragon are a little...unusual. Will you allow some "customized" items? By customized, I mean primarily just combining items functions...like a Ring of Protection and Freedom of Movement...that sort of thing. With the 50% surcharge as listed in the SRD/DMG of course.

 

[A Crazy Fool]

Shayuri:
Yes. If anyone else wants to customize stuff, they can, just be sure to tell me

 

[WarShrike]

Lol, keep shooting me down. hehe.

Ok, how about a Zenythri? I took a 28 point build to remove the +1 LA.

WarShrike

 

[kinem]

ACF, it seems like playing a devil other than an erinyes won't be allowed, and demons like the quasit have much the same problems.

What about the arcanaloth? I don't have MM2 or MM3, so it'd be based on the conversion on planewalker, which isn't that great. BTW, I have always felt that they should cast like wizards, rather than sorcerers, given their scholarly image. What modifications would you want and how many class levels would be allowed?

 

[A Crazy Fool]

WarShrike:
It works


Kinem:
The big problem is with devils, not demons. There isn't any logical problem with any kind of demon being in Sigil since demons aren't tied to any formal power structure. Since demons advance in caste by consuming other demons, though, a quaist or dretch shouldn't have a lot of class levels or else they'd be something that wasn't a quaist or a dretch. Baisically, a demon or devil makes a poor primary caster, since that's what it seems you're going for. If you still want to be a more powerful devil, the Lokogron (you are finding other people's truenames, and have freedom to move about) (WOTC has a free preview of it up on thier website), Osyluth (as long as you report on other devils' loyalty, you can do whatever), or Paeralyon (you are a spymaster, you are stationed somewhere else and can scheme as you please) (I don't have the stats for it though) are all good choices since they all serve a more general role and are not as connected to only one lord and layer.

Arcanaloth works too (I agree about casting as a wizard, that's how I handle it as well) with the caveat that Shemeska will hate you and make your life miserable (unless you want to work with or for her--I would love that by the way, it would make things very interesting), especialy if you chose to exist in the public eye. If you want to use the PW conversion, you should use the CR 12 version (You have 1 class level if you want to play an arcanaloth, the spell-like abilities and high stats make it very powerful as a PC, I'm quite confident about this guess--I've playtested it for annother campaign)

 

[Nephtys]

What would you say about a Glabrezu (CR 13), or a Succubus (CR 7)? They are chaotic, yes but socially apt, both of them dealing in temptations... How many class levels would they get?

 

[A Crazy Fool]

One thing to note, we absolutely cannot have Tanar'ri and Baatezu in the same party. Kinem seems to be leaning towards playing an arcanaloth (you want to be a primary arcane caster, right?), so it should hopefully work.

Nephtys:

Glabrezu would get 1 class level (maybe none, I'll see), a succubus would get 8 (again, it is a fairly weak monster as a PC)