Recruiting for a High Level Planescape Campaign (dead, see the last post, sorry)

[A Crazy Fool]

Nephtys:
He'd just lose the 4 HD (probably more), affecting BAB, saves, feats, skills etc, but not spells, SR, frightful prescence, etc.


Shayuri:
the druid looks good at the moment. Scout is okay too if somone else want to play a druid--a cleric would probably step on too many toes in a party like this. kinem has also expressed intrest in being the primary caster (and I genarally prefer wizards to sorcs as primary casters).

 

[Scurry]

Whoop! Sorry, I got slightly overwhelmed by the enormity of choices before us. I'm currently trying to poke together some kind of undead. I may change my mind, because zomg choices. Divine casting capability is not out of the question, so if Shay wants to run with the pseudodragon, I'll happily step up and see what I can put together.

 

[Shayuri]

Well, even the scout has 7 druid caster levels.

But yes. The full caster druid is looking pretty good, and is the first version I statted.

She has good Diplo and huge Charisma, but isn't a terribly good "face" due to lack of Bluff, Intimidate, etc etc... She would do in a pinch though. Plus, in Sigil, she's kind of an odd duck, what with her tendency to ride around on a dire wolf.

But I took the Spontaneous Healing feat from Complete Divine (if that's okay) so she can easily swap out prepped spells for Cures.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

If you'll allow some stuff from the Draconomicon, I think I'll use a Shadow Dragon. I figure I have two options, either go for a low-level one with class levels - I'd probably take sorcerer and back up the caster slot - or take an Adult one (CR 13), slap a class level of choice on, and make him primarily a combat sort. I'd lean towards the second, because playing an old-ish dragon would be rather fun. I could also use the high HD to have pretty good skills when it came to social stuff.

If I did the adult version, I'd probably want to use combat feats out of the Draconomicon to make full use of dragon-specific stuff.

EDIT: Realizing that we might already have a similarly-built dragon, I'm going to keep thinking of alternate ideas, in case.

 

[Scurry]

Throwing out a few ideas for feedback:

1. Doppleganger, either Chameleon or Warshaper, possibly both? Since we have all the mechanical bases more or less covered, this strikes me as a kinda ideal support character, and playing the Best Inflitrator Ever would make politics interesting.

EDIT: 1.5. Phasm Warshaper/Master Transmogrifist. A phasm sensate would be excellent. Polymorph at will would keep the character's abilities pretty flexible, but they would be a little less good at totally assuming someone's identity than the Doppleganger.

2. Something with the Pseudonatural template (the Complete Arcane one) because Pseudonatural things make me giggle.

3. Just out of curiosity, if I wanted to play an intelligent magical item, what guidelines would you lay down?

 

[Shayuri]

Argh! Crystalkeep has the Beguiler!

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Ah well. The nymph druid is already almost done. Darnit though. Hee hee.

 

[Nac Mac Feegle]

Looking at dragons from a new angle, actually I think I might try being a Githyanki Dragonrider (PrC from Draconomicon), feels very planescapey to me. Probably go Psion or Psychic Warrior.

EDIT: So would I use the same CR rules for a cohort? If I'm going to be a dragon-rider, I can take the Dragon Cohort feat with (if we use ECL) would juuuust let me get a Very Young red dragon (smallest I could ride). With CR, I'd probably be flying a Juvenile (CR 10) or a Young Adult (CR 13) depending on how you ruled Dragon Cohort works (normally it lets you just get a cohort which has to be a dragon and lets you subtract 3 from its ECL for the purposes of what you can get).

EDIT EDIT: If I just go with CR and -3 levels and assume I just want a large mount (huge in a city seems bad) then I could get a Juvie red dragon with 5 class levels on him.

 

[A Crazy Fool]

Nac Mac Feegle:

Because I need to make tweaks, and see the full dragon statblock to do that, playing a shadow dragon is out. Also, the red dragon pact is called off because Valkith is dead and Tur'nath is blown into to very small peices according to PW Planescape cannon (which is what I use unless I say otherwise). We also have one dragon in the party. I don't want two. Githyanki isn't out though.

there are few things that make playing (essentialy) a githyanki knight a problem:
1. Githyanki knights (a dragon rider would qualify as a knight) are fanatical and would have huge problems working with non-gythyanki.
2. Valkith is only very recently dead, so it would be very dificult to justify how someone who is loyal to Valkith and such a high level has not been consumed by her.
3. The Red dragon Pact was voided on Valkith's death


Scurry:
Phasam won't work. It has CR 7, 15 HD and no good way to scale it down. The dopelganger is much more manageable as a PC, I think, but remember, an arcanaloth can shapechange into any humanoid form at will, so there will be some redundancy there.

Psudonatural template won't fly. Far realm creatures are not PCs. Period. They are far too alien to function in a normal way.

I've never actually used an inteligent item as a PC. You'll have to come up with a more detailed idea, then I'll se what I can do.

 

[Shayuri]

Crazy, in Unearthed Arcana there's a variant druid I'd like to ask if you'd allow. It's in the online SRD too. The link: http://dndsrd.net/unearthedCoreClass.html#druid

The "simple variant" is the one I'm interested in. Basically it trades wildshape for a few class features from monk and ranger. Wild shape just doesn't fit my mental picture for this character, and it's a pain keeping track of form data...and mechanically it bites for her anyway, because she has 15 druid caster levels, but only 8 actual druid -levels-.

I'd much rather her be able to fight tooth and nail alongside her companion, which the Simple Variant would allow.

Thoughts?

 

[A Crazy Fool]

Shayuri:
Go ahead. Anything that gets rid of wild shape makes me happy.