D&D General Requesting permission to have something cool

[Micah Sweet]

If it weren't the norm...this thread would not exist.

This thread is "DMs wouldn't allow my homebrew stuff" version 8.0.

I think you're mischaracterizing it. I'm seeing a lot of, "WotC won't support my preferences, and I won't consider any other option".

 

[Micah Sweet]

Level up rewrites 5e.

And? I use WotC 5e options in my Level Up game all the time. Still playing 5e no matter how the mix balances.

 

[Corinnguard]

Level up rewrites 5e.

Nothing wrong with that. EN Publishing did what any 3pp company would do, it took what worked and made it better. And if it didn't worked, they found a likely solution to what didn't work.

 

[Micah Sweet]

We know that some would at least like a share of the profits for successful products. One of the reasons to make the core systems open is so that 3PPs can throw out D&D related ideas and concepts, frequently without significant risk (the other being that it's legally dubious how much they could actually control). A lot of 3PP are just a side gig or creative expression for people, in many but not all, cases it's not their livelihood. WOTC can take a look at 3PPs that are successful and decide if they want to incorporate any of the concepts. Which, to tie it back to the thread if there were some supplements out there that had mythic fighters that were wildly popular I suspect we would see some movement in that direction.

But having 3PPs that extend D&D instead of actually building their own systems is likely a big part of D&Ds dominance. On the other hand don't forget that as much as D&D may be the 800 pound gorilla in the room it's still a pretty small room.

You really think WotC has any regard for 3pp? Any evidence of that idea that isn't a direct reaction to a threat to their bottom line (like the OGL fallout was)?

 

[Minigiant]

And? I use WotC 5e options in my Level Up game all the time. Still playing 5e no matter how the mix balances.

Sure but like I said


It isn't a fighter subclass. It's a fighter rewrite.

 

[Oofta]

You really think WotC has any regard for 3pp? Any evidence of that idea that isn't a direct reaction to a threat to their bottom line (like the OGL fallout was)?

I think it's likely that they do reviews of popular 3PP to evaluate ideas. Whether they actually do that or not, without insider info we can never know. But I guarantee most companies look at competing products for inspiration.

Or I just don't understand the question.

 

[MGibster]

I'd disagree on this last piece, at least for myself. While it's sometimes fun to think of what my character could theoretically do at level X, such thoughts are completely irrelevant to anything that matters until-unless I reach that level; and there's no guarantee whatsoever that I will.

I don't think I've ever played a character higher than 12th level in 5th edition.

 

[Scribe]

I'm saying that WotC is making what they want to make, and not making what they don't, and would be perfectly fine if no one else made those things either.

Sure, but they quite literally cannot at this point stop someone (any of the vast number of 'we need a mythical fighter but oh yeah dont call it magic' enjoyers) from making one.

And if there is this vast pool of potential consumers, how is it that nobody has exploited this gap? After 10 years?

Its quite the mystery.

 

[mamba]

I would say the Deck of Many Things turned out to be far more risky than WotC anticipated!

did it? Are we talking about the manufacturing here or the design, I assume the former

 

[Paul Farquhar]

did it? Are we talking about the manufacturing here or the design, I assume the former

I was referring to the manufacturing, yes.