Rich Baker confirms new look of Gnomes

[The_Gneech]

In mythology, kobolds are very similar to gnomes or brownies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kobold

Thanks for the info!

FWIW, had I known, I would have complained about that in 1978, just like I did with trolls. It does seem a strange change to make.

-The Gneech

 

[pawsplay]

Thanks for the info!

FWIW, had I known, I would have complained about that in 1978, just like I did with trolls. It does seem a strange change to make.

-The Gneech

Originally they were "dog-like" goblinoids (and indeed were still godlike as of Basic D&D and are protrayed that way in Record of Lodoss War). Somewhere along the way, there was an art error, and they've been reptilian ever since.

 

[frankthedm]

Originally they were "dog-like" goblinoids (and indeed were still doglike as of Basic D&D and are protrayed that way in Record of Lodoss War).

The Lodoss War kobolds are the version I use.

Somewhere along the way, there was an art error, and they've been reptilian ever since

The were both dog like and scaley in the 1E MM illo and maybe the moldvay basic. 2E MM had the kobold illo be more rat like. 3E favored the reptilian, making them more of subterrainian skinks [see warhammer]. Though the Poison dusk lizardfolk are far more a closer match for thr WH skink. When Meepo's popularity took off, that basicly cemented the kobild reptile/dragonspawn angle.

 

[ZappoHisbane]

Okay, Eberron Gnomes just went from happy looking with a dark underside to full on Scary.

"I'm a monster now! Rawr!"

 

[Whizbang Dustyboots]

Although I love 3E kobolds (and 1E kobolds, too, although I don't think they're as dissimilar as others do), I love the WoW ones as well. I'd like to see them (with another name) added to the 4E canon.

 

[grimslade]

Although I love 3E kobolds (and 1E kobolds, too, although I don't think they're as dissimilar as others do), I love the WoW ones as well. I'd like to see them (with another name) added to the 4E canon.

"No Takey Candle!" WoW kobolds are fun.

 

[Banshee16]

P.S. Except the Badger looks more like a spider monkey.

Looks like a sloth to me

Banshee

The gnome looks cool.

 

[Keefe the Thief]

For a visual representation:

Okay, that are the Mainzelmännchen...

I would never have believed to see that picture in an ENworld-Thread. Well done.

Shows you how much popular culture can warp mythological creatures (not always in a bad way, mind).

 

[F5]

Does anyone have the link to the Cartoon that spawned this conversation? I looked, but haven't seen it anywhere...

 

[Spatula]

But... WoW kobolds are D&D kobolds...

Ironically, kobolds are not small lizard-people in mythology, yet nobody complains about that.

And gorgons are not metallic bulls with flesh-to-stone breath!