Ring of Spell Turning

[sithramir]

I want to make/buy an item for my character similar to what artemis entreri has.

I am hoping for a ring of spell turning that is continual but am not sure what the cost would be. Is this possible? If not, Whats the closet thing? I know theres a rod of absorption which is like that if you are holding the rod but only has 50 spell levels. What would be the cost to make a lasting continual one?

Or one that can say cast the spell 1/day or 2/day, etc. (doesn't have to be a ring just use the spell ability)

Thanks mucho! (i'd be a 12th lvl drow most likely so unable to cast a spell turning spell yet hence why I was hoping to have an item if possible. )

 

[Hypersmurf]

Um, look it up in the DMG under.. wait for it... Ring of Spell Turning.

150,000gp.

-Hyp.

 

[sithramir]

i'm a dolt

Ok so i'm a dolt. Since i'm 14th level and starting with 150000 gold what would be the cost of something that can do it once per day? Or a wand of spell turning would just be 14*7*750=73500 and would have 50 charges of the spell right?

 

[Hypersmurf]

Re: i'm a dolt

Or a wand of spell turning would just be 14*7*750=73500 and would have 50 charges of the spell right?

Wands are limited to 4th level spells and below.

Anything not in the DMG, you should check the price of with your DM. The formulas are guidelines only, except for wands, scrolls, and potions.

-Hyp.

 

[sithramir]

Oops

The problem is i haven't been a player in years and as a DM i just let my players buy what the want equivalent to the gold I gave them. As a player for the first time in a real long time besides a low level campaign i realize I don't know how to make special item costs. I didn't even think about constaints to wands, etc. I guess if I buy something i'll get an ion stone/rod of absorption/rod of the twisted weave(spider queen item)

Thanks I guess bah!.

Any ideas on an item that casts it 1/day? That is still feasable but probably still real expensive.

 

[Hypersmurf]

I believe the formula calls it 32,760.

Spell Level S = 7
Caster Level C = 13
Command Word Activation F = 1800
1/day U = 1

S x C x F x (U/5) = 32,760.

For a slotless item like an Ioun Stone, that would double, to 65,520.

But again, your DM would have to vet it.

-Hyp.

 

[dcollins]

Re: Oops

The problem is i haven't been a player in years and as a DM i just let my players buy what the want equivalent to the gold I gave them. As a player for the first time in a real long time besides a low level campaign i realize I don't know how to make special item costs. I didn't even think about constaints to wands, etc.

You should realize that the guidelines for pricing "new items" (including new powers, constraints, etc.) in the DMG are only presented for the DMs use for new items they create for a campaign. There's nothing given in the rules that allows them to be used at-will by players.

That will probably simplify your life a bit if you're concerned, because by the rules as written players can only choose from the items already described, priced, and detailed in the DMG. It also helps that way to not create unbalanced, broken campaigns by accident. (More: www.superdan.net/dndfaq3.html )

 

[Quixon]

Um, look it up in the DMG under.. wait for it... Ring of Spell Turning.

150,000gp.

-Hyp.

I think he wanted a continual spell turning item-Ring of spell turning isn't continual-its command activated. Granted you can activate it-it lasts 150 min. or until turns it spell levels, then you can reactivate it again.

Continual Spell turning would be pretty expensive.

 

[dcollins]

The ring of spell turning has no duration limit to its effect. Any item effect that has some limit on it must be listed in the item description... you cannot just infer it from an associated spell. Even though the description says "on command", that just provides the option to turn it off for healing, of so desired.

 

[Quixon]

The ring of spell turning has no duration limit to its effect. Any item effect that has some limit on it must be listed in the item description... you cannot just infer it from an associated spell. Even though the description says "on command", that just provides the option to turn it off for healing, of so desired.

DMG Page 192. Under Rings-Activation. It says most rings are COMMAND activated, if they offer continual benefits they say so in the desciptions.

Go thru the rings in the DMG-the ones that give a continual benefit say so-literaly-they have the word "continual or continous" in the desciptiption. Ring of Spell Turning Does not.

Ring of Spell turning has a caster level of 15th-Spell Turning has a duation of 10 min/level=150 minutes or until it turns 1d4+6 spell levels-which ever comes first. Then you have to use another action to reactivate it.

This same thing came up on the WotC boards, Sage also said it was Command activated-not continous.