Rings of Power -- all opinions and spoilers welcome thread.

[Parmandur]

Observation does no such thing because it cannot determine that there is a single "1 star camp". I'd agree that there are people simply review bombing it like a Yelp Karen. But they aren't coordinated - they're just dog-piling like the usual reactionary goons they are. But they are almost certainly not everyone giving out 1 star reviews. One might expect, for your typical show, that there will be people with extreme reactions just because of differing tastes. Some of them are bound to show up as well and don't deserve to be painted with the broad brush you're flailing around.

The control here is the critical reaction. Take out the review bomb campaign, and suddenly the critical and audience reaction matches up.

 

[Maxperson]

People have legitimate frustrations and concerns, but not 1 star ones. That's just trollage.

and people can have legitimate likes for the show, but not 5 star ones. That's just fanboyage. It works both ways.

 

[trappedslider]

This is a pretty large False Equivalence. An IP of this nature is not even close to the same as playing an RPG. It's not wrong to adapt an RPG to your style. It's a pretty large blunder to "adapt" an IP of this nature to the point of almost completely losing the author's flavor.

In your opinion.

 

[Dausuul]

The control here is the critical reaction. Take out the review bomb campaign, and suddenly the critical and audience reaction matches up.

Ah, the critics' reaction is what we should be looking at? Well, then, at least we can agree that the movies are better than the show.

 

[Parmandur]

and people can have legitimate likes for the show, but not 5 star ones. That's just fanboyage. It works both ways.

Not really: there are 5 star critical reviews, but the most negative critical reviews are 2-3 stars and mostly boil down to "I don't get why people like Tolkien or Fantasy at all." And in a case like this, the critics are the control group. Take out the trolls, and the spread of audience reviews looks the same as Metacrtitic or Rotten Tomatoes critics.

 

[Parmandur]

Ah, the critics' reaction is what we should be looking at? Well, then, at least we can agree that the movies are better than the show.

The critics are not review bombing, so it reflects more closely where the reception is at: since, again, if you discount the bombing, then the critical and audience spread matches up. Several critics don't like the show, but they are giving 2-3 star reviews.

 

[Maxperson]

In your opinion.

So if you went to a restaurant to have a hamburger(see a Tolkien Rings of Power show) and they gave you a chicken sandwich(The adapted Tolkien Rings of Power show we got) and told you that it really was hamburger that they adapted, because there's no one true way to make a hamburger, you'd be okay with it? Because all we got was a show that was Tolkien in name only. Two minor elements correct(harfoot and dwarf) does not a Tolkien flavored show make.

 

[Rabulias]

I think that all of this 5-star, 1-star guff misses one simple thing. Viewership numbers for TRoP seems to have blown the doors off previous records and, from the reports that I've read, there hasn't been a precipitous drop in viewership as the series has progressed. For a corporation that's based on getting eyes on the product, that's a win. To them, the ratings numbers are otherwise meaningless. People have voted with their streaming time.

Hate-watching still counts as watching.

 

[FitzTheRuke]

The dirty little secret about coffee is that it creates the need for itself. (And I'm a coffee drinker, though go through periods of switching to chai, but inevitably find my way back to the evil beans).

This is true. I didn't start drinking coffee at all until I was forty. Eight years in and I love the stuff. I wouldn't say that I need it. If I just got up and went, I'd be fine... but I love it. And most mornings I could use the love.

 

[trappedslider]

So if you went to a restaurant to have a hamburger(see a Tolkien Rings of Power show) and they gave you a chicken sandwich(The adapted Tolkien Rings of Power show we got) and told you that it really was hamburger that they adapted, because there's no one true way to make a hamburger, you'd be okay with it? Because all we got was a show that was Tolkien in name only. Two minor elements correct(harfoot and dwarf) does not a Tolkien flavored show make.

The other tolikenites I interact with have given nothing but praise for how the show has handled the material they have access to. So yes it is your opinion (and those who agree with you) that this is an in-name-only adaption.